Hollwood star HIV coverup and scandal

[marplots]

You could be a child with cancer, that'd be even better! And all the atheists can lie to you about how great heaven is! Yay!

I thought about it, and HIV is better. It's better because it's a sexually transmitted disease. So, you know... people will be thinking, "I bet that guy had sex." Nobody says that when you have cancer.

 

[The Norseman]

I thought about it, and HIV is better. It's better because it's a sexually transmitted disease. So, you know... people will be thinking, "I bet that guy had sex." Nobody says that when you have cancer.

Maybe, but the pity **** quotient is much higher than HIV.

 

[Information Analyst]

Do you know how many porn actresses he has porked? He might kill more people than IS in the long run.

You do know that when in treatment - which Sheen appears to have been for years - that the potential to pass the infection on through sex on is virtually zero?

 

[Information Analyst]

The timeline described is that he was diagnosed 4 years ago in 2011. Unless he could be absolutely certain of the exact date he contracted the virus (seemingly impossible given his proclivities), not telling someone with whom he was living and having sex in the same year of his diagnosis is beyond irresponsible.

His CD4 count at diagnosis would be a rough indicator of how long he'd been infected. It's not rocket science.

 

[Information Analyst]

I thought about it, and HIV is better. It's better because it's a sexually transmitted disease. So, you know... people will be thinking, "I bet that guy had sex." Nobody says that when you have cancer.

As already noted, he's far likely to have contracted it through IV drug use.

 

[angrysoba]

As already noted, he's far likely to have contracted it through IV drug use.

Except that it's Charlie Sheen, so all bets are off.

 

[catsmate]

Charlie is brave and courageous for revealing that he is HIV positive.

Which only happened several years after he knew, and under external pressure.

 

[Aepervius]

You do know that when in treatment - which Sheen appears to have been for years - that the potential to pass the infection on through sex on is virtually zero?

I seriously contest that. Whatever article I raed seem to indicate that this is not generally true.

one among them :
http://www.catie.ca/en/fact-sheets/...oad-hiv-treatment-and-sexual-hiv-transmission

Summary

HIV viral load is the amount of HIV (or number of virus) in the bodily fluids of someone living with HIV. It is measured in the blood as part of routine clinical care. A higher viral load is associated with a higher risk of HIV transmission. Research shows that successful HIV treatment can reduce the viral load to “undetectable” levels and this can significantly reduce the risk of HIV transmission. However, HIV transmission may be possible when the viral load is undetectable because there is still virus present in the blood and other bodily fluids. The risk of HIV transmission for someone taking antiretroviral treatment may increase if sexually transmitted infections (STIs) are present, doses of medications are missed, or drug resistance develops. This risk may also be higher for receptive anal sex (where the HIV-negative partner is the receptive partner, or bottom) than for other types of sex.

Emphasis mine: especially for someone like sheen which do not strike me as very responsible. But I may be judging the media personna not the real person.

TL;DR : risk is lowered but can again be increased due to various biological and social factors therefor never assume a person under treatment the risk is "virtually zero".

 

[BenBurch]

I'm going to guess intravenous drugs were more likely the culprit, although Charlie probably won't admit it. Female-male transmission of HIV is relatively rare in Western societies.

Well, there is this rumor he was seeing TS escorts as well...

 

[The Greater Fool]

Charlie is brave and courageous for revealing that he is HIV positive.

Nonsense!

Charlie is an HIV WINNER!

 

[TragicMonkey]

It's possible his body mutated to create an entirely new HIV strain by itself. 'Two and a Half Men' was such an awful show it probably had mutagenic effects on the cast.

 

[Information Analyst]

TL;DR : risk is lowered but can again be increased due to various biological and social factors therefor never assume a person under treatment the risk is "virtually zero".

OK, if you want to quibble, replace "virtually zero" with "severely reduced."

 

[Babbylonian]

His CD4 count at diagnosis would be a rough indicator of how long he'd been infected. It's not rocket science.

Evidence? From my reading, there is no way to predict how the viral load will change over time without treatment. It will increase progressively over time but not at any consistently predictable rate.

 

[Information Analyst]

Evidence? From my reading, there is no way to predict how the viral load will change over time without treatment. It will increase progressively over time but not at any consistently predictable rate.

I never said viral load, I said CD4 count, which is used as a general indicator of qwhether a diagnosis is late (<35) or very late (<200). Also, a RITA (Recent Infection Testing Algorithm, a.k.a STARHS) test can show whether someone was likely to have been infected within the previous six months.

 

[Babbylonian]

I never said viral load, I said CD4 count, which is used as a general indicator of qwhether a diagnosis is late (<35) or very late (<200). Also, a RITA (Recent Infection Testing Algorithm, a.k.a STARHS) test can show whether someone was likely to have been infected within the previous six months.

Yeah, I mixed it up. My bad.

 

[pgwenthold]

That's certainly disputed by this sexual partner.

And by Jenny McCarthy. Who wasn't even a sex partner, and the only time they kissed was years before he was infected.

Yep, the anti-vax loon is complaining that that he might spread disease to her.

 

[TragicMonkey]

And by Jenny McCarthy. Who wasn't even a sex partner, and the only time they kissed was years before he was infected.

Yep, the anti-vax loon is complaining that that he might spread disease to her.

She should have gotten the HIV vaccine, then she wouldn't have to worry.

 

[Babbylonian]

And by Jenny McCarthy. Who wasn't even a sex partner, and the only time they kissed was years before he was infected.

Yep, the anti-vax loon is complaining that that he might spread disease to her.

Yeah, she's a straight-up self-involved nutter, as usual. If I thought she and Charlie had more than half a brain between them I'd wonder if her nonsense was staged to take attention away from other women who may have legitimate beefs with him.

 

[elgarak]

 

[Noztradamus]

Which only happened several years after he knew, and under external pressure.

That caveat never seems to apply when a poof declares.