Hitler 'died in Argentina'

I don't believe it. I saw a documentary once that said that Hitler changed his name to "Hilter" and moved to Minehead, Somerset. The evidence was very compelling.

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not_so_new said:
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Logistically I think it is highly improbable that any average citizen was going to make it out of Berlin at the time without being questioned, captured, or outright killed let alone the single greatest villain in human history.

I didn't read the paper so I am open to having my opinion changed but color me skeptical.
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All very true, not_so_new; but what if they smuggled him out of Berlin... in their luggage? (dunt-dunt-duhhh...) :eye-poppi

 
not_so_new said:
I think it is assumed that the chaos would mask the movements of Hitler and his conspirators but I believe it would have had the reverse effect. They would have found it much more difficult to find transportation, shelter and supplies all of which were in extremely short supply in Berlin and Germany as a whole.

You can't plan to take a truck, get to the river and get on a boat when there are an extremely limited number of working trucks and boats, there isn't any fuel and oh by the way there are 1,200,000 armed Russan's waiting around every corner looking for someone.. anyone... to shoot.

Logistically I think it is highly improbable that any average citizen was going to make it out of Berlin at the time without being questioned, captured, or outright killed let alone the single greatest villain in human history.

I didn't read the paper so I am open to having my opinion changed but color me skeptical.
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The authors claim Hitler escaped by traveling through underground tunnels to a German transport plane waiting on a nearby roadway. He then flew to Denmark where he boarded another plane.

How the plane wasn't detected with so many enemy forces in the area isn't explained.

The following is quoted from a post made by one the two authors, it's from a thread he created to advertise his book at the site Darat linked to:

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=179706


Hitler and his party walked through the Underground tunnels to the exit at Fehrbelliner Strasse. Waiting for them on the cleared roadway of the Hohenzollerndamm was a Ju 52 transport aircraft piloted by SS Captain Peter Baumgart of the secretive Luftwaffe Unit KG 200. The group flew to Tonder in Denmark, where the party took a second Ju U52 to the Luftwaffe base at Travemünde. Changing planes again the party boarded a long-range Ju 252 and flew to the Spanish Military base at Reus, 80 kms south of Barcelona, in Spain.
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I doubt if he would have lived long even if he did get away. The films I see of him near the end of the war show a very sick man. I believe the story about him killling himself in the bunker. The Russians did the world a disservice by destroying his body.
 
Of course Hitler died in Argentina.

His jokes sucked, his routine was ill conceived, and on top of that, it was one tough room.

He should have considered opening in Peru.
 
ProBonoShill said:
How the plane wasn't detected with so many enemy forces in the area isn't explained.

The following is quoted from a post made by one the two authors, it's from a thread he created to advertise his book at the site Darat linked to:

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=179706

Hitler and his party walked through the Underground tunnels to the exit at Fehrbelliner Strasse. Waiting for them on the cleared roadway of the Hohenzollerndamm was a Ju 52 transport aircraft piloted by SS Captain Peter Baumgart of the secretive Luftwaffe Unit KG 200.
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Of course it wasn't detected, because the plane was from a Sooper Sikrit Unit!

If they want to use the KG 200 in their fantasies, at least they could make an effort and make them fly captured allied aircraft, not immediately recognizable German rustbuckets.
 
timhau said:
Of course it wasn't detected, because the plane was from a Sooper Sikrit Unit!

If they want to use the KG 200 in their fantasies, at least they could make an effort and make them fly captured allied aircraft, not immediately recognizable German rustbuckets.
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Especially when we consider Hitlers personal pilot of over 10 years was in the bunker with till the end. There was an escape plan involving the light aircraft Fieseler Stork, which from my reading about the war was a very very quiet plane to operate
 
Roadtoad said:
Of course Hitler died in Argentina.

His jokes sucked, his routine was ill conceived, and on top of that, it was one tough room.

He should have considered opening in Peru.
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If you think his act died in Argentina, you don't want to know about the trainwreck that was his tour of the Borscht Belt clubs!
 
MG1962 said:
Especially when we consider Hitlers personal pilot of over 10 years was in the bunker with till the end. There was an escape plan involving the light aircraft Fieseler Stork, which from my reading about the war was a very very quiet plane to operate
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It also needed little runway to take off or land, and could do so on fairly rough ground - an important consideration in Berlin, April/May 1945.
 
ProBonoShill said:
The authors claim Hitler escaped by traveling through underground tunnels to a German transport plane waiting on a nearby roadway. He then flew to Denmark where he boarded another plane.

How the plane wasn't detected with so many enemy forces in the area isn't explained.
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You're not fooling me. I saw movies, you know. No one can follow a plane once it's off the runway.
 
This, I think, encapsulates the thread...from Keeper: "I haven't studied this in any depth but it would appear that the evidence for the accepted truth is fairly limited ..."

That would seem to be a problem, because if you had studied it with any depth, you would recognize how nearly impossible a claim this is to uphold...but in a world where Shakespear didn't write the plays (but a 9 year orld Earl of Oxford wrote A Midsummer's Night Dream), I guess as long as you don't study an issue, you can pretty much conclude with complete confidence that common knowldge/wisdom or extensive documented scholarship is questionable.
 
You are aware that the Russians found what was left of the bodies of Hitler and Eva Braun. How do we know this? Because the forensic reports of the analysis of the body parts were kept secret for over 20 years. There are various books that discuss the Soviet atopsy of Hitler and Eva along with Josef and Mrs Goebbels, and their six children who they murdered before commiting suicide. Hitler was identified by his dental records.

All of this is known to biographers of Hitler, but not apparantly to sensation mongers. Eva was also identified in a similar fashion. The idea that there were Hitler doubles goes back to rumours of Hitler escaping in the 1950s. All of this is part of the post war mythos concerning Hitler. There is a fascinating book about it called Hitler The Survival Myth.
 
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