Hillary Clinton is Done

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Sid and Hillary Mock Tom Donilon

Following up on the latest Hillary disaster, we learn that Sid and Hillary were chatting about Obama's then National Security Adviser Tom Donilson's "babbling rhetoric" regarding the Middle east.

Just who IS he anyway:

Donilon is the brother of Mike Donilon, a lawyer and political consultant who is Counselor to Vice-President Joe Biden..... He is married to Catherine M. Russell, who was Chief of Staff to Jill Biden, and in March 2013 was named the Ambassador-at-Large for Global Women's Issues at the U.S. State Department.
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Any wonder why Obama told Hillary not to hire him, and why so many people in the Obama Administration despise him?

Yet he was Hillary's most frequent adviser on Libya.

When you lie down with dogs, Hillary...
 
Foolmewunz said:
Argument by LOL, again.

You didn't understand my post, to no one's surprise. Yellow Dog is about as appropriate as Copperheads would be in describing the actual hard core supporters of the Democratic Party. Largely northeast and midwest but actually all large cities (aside from Phoenix and Phort Worth). The yellow dogs of the late 19th and early 20th centuries do not exist. They are now Republican voters.

LOL. Keep displaying your ignorance, though. It lends so much credibility to the ABH brigade. There are as many habitual GOP supporters as there are habitual Democrat supporters. Each party relies on their core and battles for the middle of the moment.
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The term doesn't go away, besides continuing the lie that racist dems became republicans shows your ignorance. YD democrat fits you perfectly, serving coffee even.
 
logger said:
Has anyone seen Hillary in an orange pant suit?
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As in "Orange is the New Black"? Despite what you keep saying, it ain't happening and is extremely unlikely to happen. When do you think she'll be doing the perp walk? Care to make a prediction? I predict it's vastly more likely she'll be walking in her inaugural parade.
 
Trebuchet said:
As in "Orange is the New Black"? Despite what you keep saying, it ain't happening and is extremely unlikely to happen. When do you think she'll be doing the perp walk? Care to make a prediction? I predict it's vastly more likely she'll be walking in her inaugural parade.
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I've said before that Obama will probably pardon her on his way out town.
 
logger said:
The term doesn't go away, besides continuing the lie that racist dems became republicans shows your ignorance. YD democrat fits you perfectly, serving coffee even.
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Keep living the lies.

1. I'm retired. Living off your hard-earned money and government handouts. Excuse me while I top up my little umbrella drink.

2. The GOP attracts far more racists, since '64, statistically. The hard core segregationist and anti-voters' rights bloc is a GOP bloc, now. It has been for over 50 years. See "Strom Thurmond Goldwater Campaign 1964".

3. And.... No. Constantly repeating the claim that yellow dog actually still means something is not going to give it credence. Further, I've voted Socialist, Independent, early variations on "Green", AND Democrat. Good luck with your straw-farming career, though. Easier to cut than trees, but you need a lot of it to make any money.
 
Foolmewunz said:
Keep living the lies. See "Strom Thurmond Goldwater Campaign 1964".
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For crying out loud... in spite of the 1960's southern strategy and Mr. Thurmond remaining an unrepentant racist for the remainder of his life, most of the racist blocs in the south got integrated with the new civil rights developments as the older Dixiecrat -most of the well-known ones - retiring... The fact that the old "southern way of life" that the Dixiecrats pandered to all those years ago doesn't exist in todays' general society is largely proof of that. If you want to argue that the racism is still rampant today go ahead, but trying to apply 1960's brands of the practice to today's politics is disingenuous

Off topic though... quote me in the appropriate thread and we can continue
 
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16.5 said:
I've said before that Obama will probably pardon her on his way out town.
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A non-answer. She'll be on the podium with him at her inauguration, in all likelihood. Not that she's my preferred Dem candidate.
When do you think she'll be even indicted, since you keep talking about perp walks etc.?
 
logger said:
Lol

Why am I not surprised that you're a YD democrat, it's the 40% who will vote for Hillary as she's frogged marched into prison. Good job!
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With all due respect... why should anyone care for that matter about the labels? This is politics, and people have different views of her degree of guilt...

For that matter I think this by far is a legitimate issue compared to Benghazi, but at this point, until she's actually hauled away in handcuffs and convicted of a crime it sounds rather silly to try and read how people are going to vote. Yes there are some people arguing like she's a complete angel... whatever... but I think they can speak their opinions for themselves. In a primary season especially I see no reason why someone cannot disagree with one side of the issue while still intending to voting differently. That aside, bias is human nature anyway... and there's an implication in that which isn't exclusive to Hillary supporters...
 
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Grizzly Bear said:
For crying out loud... in spite of the 1960's southern strategy and Mr. Thurmond remaining an unrepentant racist for the remainder of his life, most of the racist blocs in the south got integrated with the new civil rights developments as the older Dixiecrat -most of the well-known ones - retiring... The fact that the old "southern way of life" that the Dixiecrats pandered to all those years ago doesn't exist in todays' general society is largely proof of that. If you want to argue that the racism is still rampant today go ahead, but trying to apply 1960's brands of the practice to today's politics is disingenuous

Off topic though... quote me in the appropriate thread and we can continue
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Done.


http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10920730#post10920730
 
Speaking of "99 problems,..." but Hillary ain't one (tit for tat, O-Bam-a)

...Breaking his silence on the dispute over her use of a private email server while serving as his diplomat-in-chief, the man she hopes to replace said: “When we’re in these offices, we have to be more sensitive and stay as far away from the line as possible when it comes to how we handle information, how we handle our own personal data,” he told 60 Minutes. “And, you know, she made a mistake. She has acknowledged it.”

Mr Obama’s comments paved the way for Ms Clinton’s rivals to attack her judgement on her email habits while Secretary of State, at a crucial moment for her campaign. From being the clear front-runner among Democrat candidates, she now faces a real challenge from Mr Sanders, who has overtaken her in the polls in New Hampshire and is not far behind in Iowa...
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I'm of the opinion that there is no real "there" there, at worst it was lapse of judgement that resulted in no known issue of consequence. This is largely a side-effect of the non-stop mudfest. Even when you survive it well and with style, you still end up being perceived as haggard, guarded and mudspattered. More important to me, is that she seems to feel that her position upon issues is something that she has to practice and study, carefully memorize and embrace so that she can't be tricked by questions she isn't prepared for,...rather than something that just naturally results from her outlook upon, and understanding of, the world.
 
The contrasts are interesting. I've already said Clinton has higher poll ratings within her party than Trump, yet she keeps being described as crashing. Trump can get past 30% yet he's continually called the front runner.

Here's another OpEd from opposite day:
How to Tell the Difference Between a Real Front-Runner and a Fake One
Hillary Clinton, nearly every analyst, pundit and observer agrees, still stands the best chance of winning the Democratic nomination. Yet on the other side, while Donald Trump possesses a solid lead in nearly every poll and every early state, the entire political establishment anticipates that he’ll ultimately follow Wile E. Coyote right off the cliff.
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And look if you substitute the names, "while Clinton possesses a solid lead in nearly every poll and every early state", (except New Hampshire)' Politico calls her floundering. Trump is said to possess a "solid lead".

Fixed framing anyone?
 
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Skeptic Ginger said:
The contrasts are interesting. I've already said Clinton has higher poll ratings within her party than Trump, yet she keeps being described as crashing. Trump can get past 30% yet he's continually called the front runner.

Here's another OpEd from opposite day:
How to Tell the Difference Between a Real Front-Runner and a Fake One


And look if you substitute the names, "while Clinton possesses a solid lead in nearly every poll and every early state", (except New Hampshire)' Politico calls her floundering. Trump is said to possess a "solid lead".

Fixed framing anyone?
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Its not so much the current stat, as it is the trend.

"Poll: Virginia Democrats considering alternatives to Hillary Clinton"
http://www.13newsnow.com/story/news...dering-alternatives-hillary-clinton/73825080/
NEWPORT NEWS, Va. (WVEC) -- Virginia democrats are seriously considering alternatives to Hillary Clinton, according to a political poll released Monday by the Wason Center for Public Policy at Christopher Newport University.

While Clinton remains Virginia Democrats’ top choice, her lead is plummeting and Biden is polling better against every Republican candidate.

Clinton's lead has dropped from 80 percent to 40 percent since a Wason Center poll in April. Vice President Joe Biden and Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders both poll at 23 percent...
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She's lost 40 points over the last 6 months, another 40 over the next 6 months would be just about right.
 
Trakar said:
Its not so much the current stat, as it is the trend...
She's lost 40 points over the last 6 months, another 40 over the next 6 months would be just about right.
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This has been explained to her so many times, it's sad!
 
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So, will she flame out tonight? Will Sanders make a compelling argument to voting public? Who are these other people on the stage? Back OT: will tonight be the beginning of the end predicted so many months ago or will she revive her chances?
 
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