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This should explain the 40%

Yellow Dog Democrat

Someone (generally from the South) who would vote for a yellow dog if it was a Democrat. Alternately, someone who would rather vote for a yellow dog than a Republican. The term probably dates back to the 19th century and gained national recognition in the 1928 Presidential election. Today, used most often as a term of approval or self-identification.



Didn't know we had so many southerners on here.
 
logger said:
This should explain the 40%

Yellow Dog Democrat

Someone (generally from the South) who would vote for a yellow dog if it was a Democrat. Alternately, someone who would rather vote for a yellow dog than a Republican. The term probably dates back to the 19th century and gained national recognition in the 1928 Presidential election. Today, used most often as a term of approval or self-identification.



Didn't know we had so many southerners on here.
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Why am I not surprised that you don't understand history. The yellow dog Dems are no longer known as such because they're largely voting Republican these days.

I'm a southerner, by the way. My wise old mammy repeated this hoary tale in 1964, just before the election. She cost me $5 because I bet a friend that there were so many districts in the South where people had never pulled the "Republican" lever, that Johnson would carry the old Confederacy. We used to joke in New Orleans that there were upstate districts that they didn't even know if the Republican lever worked because it hadn't been tested in decades.

As anyone who can read (let alone avid readers) can tell you, Strom bulked up the segregationists (er... "States' Rights") vote and Goldwater carried the deep south and the GOP has taken it ever since, except when a favorite son runs for the Dems. The yellow dog voter (or "yellow dog Democrat") hasn't existed for more than five decades.

Now, if what you're trying to say is that there are people who feel there's almost a personal religious commitment to voting Democrat, I'll agree. (And there are just as many on the GOP side.) I'm one such person, but I'm not even really a Democrat. I'll support Sanders in the primaries but when it comes down to the General Election, whether it's Sanders or Clinton or Biden, I'm voting for them. The modern GOP is so frightening, that I want anyone who is not beholding to that organization.
 
BenBurch said:
That would be NOW.
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Disagree. If Sanders puts a fright in the campaign now, they're a bunch of sissies. It's the long haul and the campaign just got onto the freeway. There's months to go before the heavy hitting. I think Slick should stay in the background turning big money pockets upside down. Then he goes public as the Dems head to the convention. Pulling Slick in now makes HRC look weak.

Remember Slick's speech at the 2012 convention. It was a genuine barn burner. He outdid Obama by a mile as he explained the importance of Obamacare. The crowd went wild. To switch metaphors, you don't bring in your closer in the 2nd inning.
 
SezMe said:
Disagree. If Sanders puts a fright in the campaign now, they're a bunch of sissies. It's the long haul and the campaign just got onto the freeway. There's months to go before the heavy hitting. I think Slick should stay in the background turning big money pockets upside down. Then he goes public as the Dems head to the convention. Pulling Slick in now makes HRC look weak.

Remember Slick's speech at the 2012 convention. It was a genuine barn burner. He outdid Obama by a mile as he explained the importance of Obamacare. The crowd went wild. To switch metaphors, you don't bring in your closer in the 2nd inning.
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You guys are going to get Biden, Hilldabeast is done!
 
logger said:
This should explain the 40%

Yellow Dog Democrat

Someone (generally from the South) who would vote for a yellow dog if it was a Democrat. Alternately, someone who would rather vote for a yellow dog than a Republican. The term probably dates back to the 19th century and gained national recognition in the 1928 Presidential election. Today, used most often as a term of approval or self-identification.



Didn't know we had so many southerners on here.
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I don't see a problem with that strategy, as Republicans are by and large absolute morons. Dangerous, war hungry morons.
 
Hillary begins to flail. She comes out against the Trans Pacific Partnership. CNN gleefully recounts the 45 times she spoke out in favor of the TPP:

This TPP sets the gold standard in trade agreements to open free, transparent, fair trade, the kind of environment that has the rule of law and a level playing field.
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Vox notes that her stated explanation makes no sense:

In the interview with PBS's Judy Woodruff where she came out against the treaty, she cited two specific objections: It doesn't have language dealing with currency manipulation, and it has provisions that favor big drug companies over patients.

These are totally plausible arguments for opposing the TPP. But they make no sense as reasons for Clinton to change her mind about the treaty.
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Of course Clinton's arguments today are simply window dressing. We all know she's playing politics. She's starting to feel the Bern, and so she's pivoting to the left. As I have often noted, Hillary seems to have heard Richard Nixon's dictum about running to the center, but she failed to listen to the whole message: First secure the nomination, then run to the center as fast as you can. As in 2008, she has always assumed that the nomination was hers and so she's been a surprisingly weak candidate among the party's base. Rattled by Sanders' rise, she's belatedly trying to nail down her left flank.

I do love that the white knight waiting in the wings is Joe Biden. Only the Democrats!
 
I suppose we have to accept that opinion, you guys being the established, internationally recognized experts in clown cars.
 
New Emails Show Clinton Promoted Blumenthal Interests in Libya...

that and him mocking Obama is going to be a problem....
 
Wall Street isn’t worried about Hillary Clinton’s plan

Hillary Clinton unveiled her big plan to curb the worst of Wall Street’s excesses on Thursday. The reaction from the banking community was a shrug, if not relief.

While Clinton proposes some harsher regulations, she stops far short of what more populist Democrats like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren want to do to Wall Street.

Sanders and Warren think the big banks should be broken up. Clinton does not. It’s a big divide in the Democratic party.

“We continue to believe Clinton would be one of the better candidates for financial firms,” wrote Jaret Seiberg of Guggenheim Partners in a note to clients analyzing her plan.

Clinton’s big push is for more accountability on Wall Street. But she does that by proposing a tweak to what is currently in place, not a major overhaul like Sanders.
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Wall Street is comfortable with Clinton approach

America’s largest banks and financial firms would likely have to make some changes under Clinton’s plans, but they have been doing that since Dodd-Frank was passed in 2009.

“To us, [Clinton’s] overall plan demonstrates an understanding of the financial system that we have not previously seen on the campaign trail,” Seiberg wrote.

Part of the reason Wall Street has some comfort with Clinton is because of her advisers. When it comes to financial issues, she has often turned to Gary Gensler, a former Commodity Futures Trading Commission chair, and former Congressman Barney Frank, the co-author of Dodd-Frank. The financial world knows both of them well.

Wall Street also takes comfort because of the record of President Bill Clinton. He turned out to be very moderate on economic and financial issues, and stocks soared under his tenure.

Clinton’s rivals want to go much further

Sanders and Warren, who isn’t running but casts a shadow over Democratic policies about Wall Street, argue that banks like JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America and Citigroup are still “too big too fail.” Former Maryland Governor Martin O’Malley, a 2016 contender, is in their camp as well. O’Malley criticized Clinton’s plan for “falling short.”

They think the only way to ensure those banks never need a taxpayer bailout again is to make them smaller by reinstating a law know as the Glass-Steagall Act, which Bill Clinton abolished in the 1990s when he was president.

In short, the Glass-Steagall Act prevents banks from doing both Main Street type activities like lending to people for their homes and small businesses, and Wall Street type activities like trading. Having that wall in place kept banks more focused and smaller...
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Bill had several problems, but he was too cool for school, and it was hard to hold such missteps against him. Hillary ain't Bill.
 
logger said:
Lol

Why am I not surprised that you're a YD democrat, it's the 40% who will vote for Hillary as she's frogged marched into prison. Good job!
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Argument by LOL, again.

You didn't understand my post, to no one's surprise. Yellow Dog is about as appropriate as Copperheads would be in describing the actual hard core supporters of the Democratic Party. Largely northeast and midwest but actually all large cities (aside from Phoenix and Phort Worth). The yellow dogs of the late 19th and early 20th centuries do not exist. They are now Republican voters.

LOL. Keep displaying your ignorance, though. It lends so much credibility to the ABH brigade. There are as many habitual GOP supporters as there are habitual Democrat supporters. Each party relies on their core and battles for the middle of the moment.
 
BenBurch said:
You bet.
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I would support Hillary before I would Biden, but if Sanders doesn't win the Democratic nomination, I have no reason to vote Democratic for the top of the ticket, and most likely won't.
 
Biden meets with DNC

The headline says it all, if one were going to connect the dots one could look to the fact that Hillary betrayed and mocked Obama by allowing Sid Blumenthal unfettered access despite the fact that Obama specifically vetoed his hiring.

Further, newly released emails show that Sid was slamming Obama and his top aides in emails to Hillary regarding regime change in the Middle East.

“It is curious Secretary Clinton took so much of her advice from someone who had never been to Libya, professed no independent knowledge of the country and who the White House blocked her from hiring.”

Of course, Hilary lied extensively and enthusiastically about her relationship with Blumenthal, which has been covered elsewhere....
 
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