Hillary Clinton is Done: part 4

[Bogative]

Hillary didn't delete any emails.

Right, but her cronies did for her. I'm sure she was too busy wiping the kitchen counter down after baking cookies for the grandkids to wipe her own server.

Common sense tells me the Director's actions on Friday, before the FBI even had legal access to the device in question yet alone read a single email, was intended to create the type of wild speculation and misinformation you posted.

The FBI had legal access to the computer in question, they were searching it for evidence of Wiener's perversion in another case. They couldn't read the emails until they received a warrant. All they would have to do is compare metadata (which would show if emails were sent to or from Hillary's private server) to metadata from emails they already obtained from investigating Hillary, giving them enough reason to request a warrant.

 

[Belz...]

I dont know why you would want to do that.

I'll put you right next to the lady who never engages in hypocrisy! I'll make a fortune!

 

[Belz...]

See that you do so.

Your character is getting a bit authoritarian. Might want to change your script.

 

[Tony Stark]

I don't care what he thinks. It doesn't influence what I think is appropriate to announce.

You don't see any problem with his inconsistency?

 

[Belz...]

She was

Seems to me like you're picking and choosing the information you want to accept, even from the same source and about the same topic.

 

[BobTheCoward]

You don't see any problem with his inconsistency?

No. I don't care if another person is consistent or not. I judge each action on its own .

 

[The Big Dog]

No Big Dog, the FBI said she wasn't either, so you believe Comey or you don't, you don't get to cherry pick which of his actions you choose to accept as truth.

The fbi said nothing of the sort.

 

[acbytesla]

I guess the same reason they would set up a private server in their home and send classified emails on it – they're not the brightest bulbs in the chandelier.

Sorry, you're mistaken. There were reasons to set up a private email server at her home.
1. No link is necessary to the State Department to access all your emaIs.
2. There was the compatibility with the phones.

I can think of no reasons for Huma to store emails on her husband's computer.

Not necessarily. Law enforcement sources told the Wall Street Journal that there could be thousands of emails, according to the metadata.

The FBI would not have to know what the emails contain to know that they never had access to them simply by comparing sender/receiver, time and dates to emails they previously examined.

So, there are thousands of emails on the computer? There are thousands of emails on my laptop. And of course there are emails to and from the State Department. His wife worked at the State Department. There is nothing here at all that suggests that there is evidence that incriminates the Secretary. All we have at the moment is data. Maybe after they review them there might be actual probative evidence, but that seems very unlikely. Certainly not anything that makes it logical to draw any conclusions.

 

[Tony Stark]

I can think of no reasons for Huma to store emails on her husband's computer.

She actually says she has no idea how they got on there.

Maybe she signed on to a an email client on it for some reason and forgot.

Maybe Weiner knew her password somehow and was reading her emails behind her back.

Maybe she is lying.

 

[plague311]

I predict that somewhere in the 650,000 (!) emails on Weiner's laptop is a smoking gun email that will lead to charges against Huma, Hillary or both.

If I'm wrong, I'll gladly admit it was much ado about nothing and I was wrong.

LoL that's a fairly lazy cop out.

Either the world will end or absolutely nothing will happen.

 

[Bogative]

I can think of no reasons for Huma to store emails on her husband's computer.

Yet there they are. Unless you believe Comey's lying and someone in Obama's DOJ believed the lie when they issued the search warrant.

So, there are thousands of emails on the computer? There are thousands of emails on my laptop. And of course there are emails to and from the State Department. His wife worked at the State Department. There is nothing here at all that suggests that there is evidence that incriminates the Secretary. All we have at the moment is data. Maybe after they review them there might be actual probative evidence, but that seems very unlikely. Certainly not anything that makes it logical to draw any conclusions.

Geez, I can't believe I'm going to allow myself to stoop to the levels that Hillary's spin doctors have went to over the course of this debacle but here goes: the secretary isn't under investigation, her server is.

Any emails to or from her server is subject to the investigation whether they were sent to her or not. The Wall Street Journal reported that there could be "thousands" according to law enforcement sources. Hillary brought every single bit of this upon herself when she set up her own server and used it for government business.

 

[acbytesla]

Yet there they are. Unless you believe Comey's lying and someone in Obama's DOJ believed the lie when they issued the search warrant.

Geez, I can't believe I'm going to allow myself to stoop to the levels that Hillary's spin doctors have went to over the course of this debacle but here goes: the secretary isn't under investigation, her server is.

Any emails to or from her server is subject to the investigation whether they were sent to her or not. The Wall Street Journal reported that there could be "thousands" according to law enforcement sources. Hillary brought every single bit of this upon herself when she set up her own server and used it for government business.

I don't doubt that there are emails that originated from that server. There is nothing unusual about that since Huma I'm sure was connected to it often and sent and received emails to her husband.

I also believe that it is logical and diligent for the FBI to review them. That said, I think is absurd to speculate as to the nature of those emails, let alone suggest that it will include a smoking gun. I'm not spinning anything. I'm saying, we know nothing at the moment and drawing conclusions from nothing is reckless.

 

[acbytesla]

She actually says she has no idea how they got on there.

Maybe she signed on to a an email client on it for some reason and forgot.

Maybe Weiner knew her password somehow and was reading her emails behind her back.

Maybe she is lying.

I'm sure the FBI hasn't told her anything. But I bet if she didn't hate her husband before this she hates him now.

 

[Minoosh]

That saId, Obama is now defending him, although I'm not sure why.

Possibly because Obama agreed ahead of time to defend Comey.

The following is all from CNN:

Headline:

White House: We won't 'defend nor criticize' Comey on Hillary emails

Second paragraph:

"The President doesn't believe that he's secretly strategizing to benefit one candidate or one political party," Earnest said. "He's in a tough spot, and he's the one who will be in a position to defend his actions in the face of significant criticism from a variety of legal experts, including individuals who served in senior Department of Justice positions in administrations led by presidents in both parties."

Third paragraph:

The White House had no role in Comey's decision to inform Congress he was investigating new emails related to Hillary Clinton's private server, Earnest added.

My scenario: "The White House," aka Obama, knew Comey had this information. Obama said, "Jim, I'm not going to tell you whether you should or shouldn't tell Congress; the White House will play no role in that decision. However, I know you're not a partisan hack, and if you go forward, I will let the American people know that."

CNN trots out the quote for the headline: "White House won't defend or criticize." But you read it as a defense, right? Of course Obama is defending Comey. Why? Because he trusts him.

People blasted me in Part 3 for saying Comey wasn't necessarily being a partisan hack. What's Obama's motive now to tell the country that Comey isn't a partisan hack?

ETA: I know, Tony, you speculated Obama is covering his ass because Comey was his appointment. I find that at least as implausible as my speculation.

 

[Minoosh]

She actually says she has no idea how they got on there.

The Cloud did it.

 

[Tony Stark]

hus far coverage on broadcast nets ABC/CBS re: Comey/FBI is mostly about Comey coming under criticism, esp Repubs criticism

 

[Belz...]

That said, I think is absurd to speculate as to the nature of those emails, let alone suggest that it will include a smoking gun.

Indeed folks. Think about it: why would you assume anything about the content of these e-mails beforehand?

 

[acbytesla]

Indeed folks. Think about it: why would you assume anything about the content of these e-mails beforehand?

Agreed.

When you know nothing, you know nothing.

 

[Minoosh]

hus far coverage on broadcast nets ABC/CBS re: Comey/FBI is mostly about Comey coming under criticism, esp Repubs criticism

I can't tell what this is supposed to mean.

I don't have TV.

 

[xjx388]

Sorry, you're mistaken. There were reasons to set up a private email server at her home.
1. No link is necessary to the State Department to access all your emaIs.
2. There was the compatibility with the phones.

One big reason NOT to set up a private email server? It's, at the very least, "extremely careless." There is not the required protection for classified information and it can be used to circumvent FOIA.

Clinton herself acknowledges this was a mistake.

I can think of no reasons for Huma to store emails on her husband's computer.

Really? I can think of several:
1) If she was trying to hide the emails, well, it's her husband's computer therefore it wasn't searched as part of the original investigation. This allowed her to say she had turned over all her devices. This only came up because Anthony Weiner is an idiot.
2)Along those lines, maybe she holds on to the juicy stuff just in case she ever needs to use it.
3)Maybe she wasn't storing them herself but her husband downloaded them into his computer as a)his own little insurance policy, b)to keep tabs on his wife, c)to keep in the loop with political stuff.
4)Maybe she used his computer once in awhile to check on work stuff and forgot.

So, there are thousands of emails on the computer? There are thousands of emails on my laptop. And of course there are emails to and from the State Department. His wife worked at the State Department. There is nothing here at all that suggests that there is evidence that incriminates the Secretary. All we have at the moment is data. Maybe after they review them there might be actual probative evidence, but that seems very unlikely. Certainly not anything that makes it logical to draw any conclusions.

Well, we do know that investigators have determined that they could be connected to the Clinton investigation. This indicates that they saw something (metadata?) that lead them to that conclusion. Other than that, could be lunch meat, could be peaches. I guess we'll find out.