Hillary Clinton is Done: part 2

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I just got here and can't post links but if you look at the PredictWise the prediction markets currently have HRC at 71% probability of victory in the general election. Granted these same markets didn't see the Trump ascendancy coming but generally prediction markets perform pretty well especially compared to typical pundits.
 
Ahh, now we see another strategy, the "Socratic Method," or as I like to call it: Just Asking Questions.

What part of my earlier explanation about you about JAQ'ing didn't you understand?

JAQ'ing is about making veiled accusations in the form of a question (e.g.: "Has 16.5 bribed his high school teacher to get his diploma? Just asking questions!"). Asking actual questions and expecting an answer is not it.

Here is false premise is that "I am voting for Trump," of course, which we all know is blatantly untrue.

I don't know if it's true. I'M ASKING YOU.

It can be effective in skilled hands, unfortunately here it is simply blatantly disingenuous.

I THOUGHT you were a Republican and thus were going to vote for Trump in the G.E. Why is that disingenuous? Is there _anything_ that people post that you don't find dishonest?
 
In other news, Clinton is so done that she only needs 155-160 (depending on your source) of the 1,083 remaining delegates.

Add this to the failure of the FBI investigation to turn up anything yet, and Clinton is about to "done" herself into becoming the next POTUS.

And then we're all done.
 
Is that a Rule of So?

MSNBC seems to disagree with your pro-Hillary spin, as CE's original link so plainly shows.
So no answer then. As usual.
Kinda pathetic though.

Aren't you voting for Trump, 16.5? Why all the fuss about Sanders, then?
He desperately needs something to denigrate Clinton, otherwise she'll walk over Trump.
 
Guess what, so would I !

Starting to see a trend here....

Too bad so many pro-Sanders Democrats seem to have devoted themselves to keeping Hillary in the race. As a conservative, there's not much I can really do to help, but I'll be putting my mark next to Bernie's name in the California primary.

As for the general election, given a choice between Hillary and Trump, put me in the "some men just want to watch the world burn" column.
 
Hillary Clinton’s long, tortured, road ahead

Hillary Clinton’s second inevitable triumphal march to the Democratic nomination is even more depressing than her first one.

She is barely crawling her way to the convention, being bested in primary after primary, by one of the most unlikely, ungainly, unhip and unscripted candidates in a presidential election ever: the awesome socialist septuagenarian Bernie Sanders.

He just won Indiana and West Virginia. He’s heading to a win in Oregon. Unthinkably, it is said he may win California. None of this was supposed to be.

He racks up majorities — she issues another alibi for why she lost. He stirs their hearts — she runs through another of her static, bloodless “look at the math” updates that wearies even that few who really want her to win.

All the fire, all the belief, all the enthusiasm, all — curiously — the novelty and freshness is with white-haired Bernie.

The Democrats are playing against the laws of cause and effect. Hillary’s campaign is dead, and she’s winning. Bernie’s is alive, and he’s losing. How can such things be? Should she actually win the nomination, as all the journalists and pundits keep telling us she will and must, the Democratic party will have said “No!” to enthusiasm, inspiration and excitement. They will have said no to Bernie’s peoples’ campaign, and re-embraced the cynical, entitled, passionless politics of the Clinton machine.

This would be a curious strategy even in normal times. Up against Trump the Implacable it is wildly out of tune. If she is still just barely winning, what hope can she really have when He Who Knows No Boundaries Whatsoever steps up to work his inexplicable magic?

http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/rex-murphy-hillary-clintons-long-tortured-road-ahead


Crooked Hillary's campaign is so lackluster and uninspiring that she can barely keep pace with the 74 year old Sanders. Assuming she can actually win the nomination, the Trump Train is going to roll right over her. He's going to go through her like crap through a goose, as George Patton would say.
 
Can any Sanders supporters or Republicans here explain if Hillary is so bad for one of the two groups why the other group hates her so much?
 
Too bad so many pro-Sanders Democrats seem to have devoted themselves to keeping Hillary in the race. As a conservative, there's not much I can really do to help, but I'll be putting my mark next to Bernie's name in the California primary.

As for the general election, given a choice between Hillary and Trump, put me in the "some men just want to watch the world burn" column.

I think you're mistaking Democrats, or Democrat-leaning independents with "pro-Sanders Democrats". If Sanders had been a better candidate and won the nomination, the fact that I would vote for him does not actually make me a "pro-Sanders Democrat".

Further, "keeping" Clinton in the race implies that she hasn't been winning from the beginning in the polls, in the popular vote, in the number of states won, in the pledged delegates, and in the super delegates. It's more accurate to claim that those who are still supporting the candidate who has no hope of getting the delegates needed to win the nomination are "keeping Sanders in the race".

I'm not sure that being conservative and wanting the world to burn are consistent ideologies, but whatever floats your boat.
 
Can any Sanders supporters or Republicans here explain if Hillary is so bad for one of the two groups why the other group hates her so much?


Sanders supporter here, although the specifics for the hate are not something I can speak to because I don't hate her. More generally, there are reasons to dislike something even if it is a detriment to something else you're opposed to. For example, I would not start liking cancer even if the Kim ruling North Korea got it.

As another example, it really doesn't make me like Trump more because of the damage he's doing to Republicans and the conservative movement. Some of the same reasons he's damaging them are the reasons I dislike him in the first place.
 
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