Hillary Clinton is Done: part 2

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Childlike Empress said:
Interesting eyewitness account from the Nevada Convention describing the tricks the party establishment played to serve Hitlery.
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And in other news The Bleeding Heart Whingers Journal reports that LEOs in Tallahassee are being sued because in March of this year Cletus L. Baddood robbed the Bojangles on Interstate 5, and when he tried to do the same thing in May, after bragging about his heist to friends and on Facebook, the police were waiting for him. "Unfair", said Baddood's attorney. You weren't guarding the place before, you shouldn't be allowed to guard it, now."

In short... Sanders' NV team pulled a stunt in Clark County that they thought gained them two delegates. When the entire slate of delegates got together, for the State Convention... Guess What? The delegates for the candidate who won the state, who out-numbered the usurpers, were waiting for them with her proscribed majority.

The Sanders' crowd's reaction is pathetic, and it's worrisome. "Hey, we're smarter than them and we out-foxed 'em so they should give us more delegates. When they stacked the floor in Clark Co., it's the voice of the people? I think they mean, the voice of us real smart people who know better than you dummies".

And as I've mentioned before, instead of being a mensch and telling his supporters to chill, he makes a Trumpian declaration and not-so-subtle threat a la, well sure it was maybe a little heated but understandably so because we were jobbed.
 
Foolmewunz said:
And as I've mentioned before, instead of being a mensch and telling his supporters to chill, he makes a Trumpian declaration and not-so-subtle threat a la, well sure it was maybe a little heated but understandably so because we were jobbed.
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Yep. Completely despicable behavior.
 
Foolmewunz said:
And in other news The Bleeding Heart Whingers Journal reports that LEOs in Tallahassee are being sued because in March of this year Cletus L. Baddood robbed the Bojangles on Interstate 5, and when he tried to do the same thing in May, after bragging about his heist to friends and on Facebook, the police were waiting for him. "Unfair", said Baddood's attorney. You weren't guarding the place before, you shouldn't be allowed to guard it, now."

In short... Sanders' NV team pulled a stunt in Clark County that they thought gained them two delegates. When the entire slate of delegates got together, for the State Convention... Guess What? The delegates for the candidate who won the state, who out-numbered the usurpers, were waiting for them with her proscribed majority.

The Sanders' crowd's reaction is pathetic, and it's worrisome. "Hey, we're smarter than them and we out-foxed 'em so they should give us more delegates. When they stacked the floor in Clark Co., it's the voice of the people? I think they mean, the voice of us real smart people who know better than you dummies".

And as I've mentioned before, instead of being a mensch and telling his supporters to chill, he makes a Trumpian declaration and not-so-subtle threat a la, well sure it was maybe a little heated but understandably so because we were jobbed.
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In case you think the gibberish you put out in vast amounts bordering on verbosity is somehow impressive: It isn't. The USA you think you know has long ceased to exist. This is naked gaming the system by the system facing challenges by majorities "on both sides" feeling nothing but utter disgust about the status quo.
 
Hillary probably wears pants to cover up her spider veins and folds. I dislike her playing the woman card like men are evil and must be put down, but I admire her stamina in campaigning as the National Enquirer had her on death's door months ago:D
 
Childlike Empress said:
In case you think the gibberish you put out in vast amounts bordering on verbosity is somehow impressive: It isn't. The USA you think you know has long ceased to exist. This is naked gaming the system by the system facing challenges by majorities "on both sides" feeling nothing but utter disgust about the status quo.
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Says the German. *snerk*
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
The stars were aligned in May and Obama won in Nov. Got it.
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And in 2008 when the same four polls we're talking about now accurately called it for Obama within 3 points.

Harry’s Guide To 2016 Election Polls

This is the biggest point you remain in denial about:

And in regards to the media:
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This far out in the primaries, when there's already a presumptive nominee and another who's within an ace of winning, the polls are predictive, as I have shown. The RCP aggregate in May was accurate in 2012 and accurate in 2008.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...neral_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html#chart
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

In 2012, from May on, the vast majority of polls had Obama with a single-digit lead. Every ABC/WaPo poll from late May to the election, except for one in August, was within 4 points of the result, and the August one was 5 points off. Fox also consistently showed Obama either tied or with a single digit lead from mid-May on.

Spin it all you want, but if Hillary was clobbering Trump in the latest polling, you'd be crowing about it, and now that she's losing, the polls don't count. Of course. The polls only count when they show the result you want.

No candidate ever wants to be losing in any poll, so of course this is bad news for Clinton. Apart from being fairly accurate, it gives Trump a boost by suggesting he can actually win in November, and possibly win some of the battleground states that Obama carried.

The latest polling has been dreadful for Clinton, both nationally and in battleground states, so much so that one of her supporters here has been reduced to using an out-of-date outlier poll in Florida to "support" a claim she has a double-digit lead there. And this on the same day when CBS just released a poll showing Clinton with a 1 point lead in Florida!

The reality denial of Hillary supporters is almost Orwellian. Hillary can't be losing to Trump. Hillary has never been losing to Trump. Hillary will never be losing to Trump.
 
WildCat said:
Florida's Hispanics are mostly Cuban, and conservative.
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Is that why Obama carried Florida's Hispanic vote 60/39 in '12? 57/42 in '08. Hell, Kerry beat Bush there in '04. John Swiftboat Kerry, running in a state where Brother Jeb had the machine tied up, and the GOP lost in the demographic. 2000? Bush won. Remember the Clinton admin's farewell gift to the GOP? Elian Gonzalez/Janet Reno.

But the trend is moving solidly Democratic. And party registration for the Dems this year - i.e. new registrations is 8 thousand for the GOP and 16,000 for the Dems.

Are you getting your figures from the Karl Rove braintrust? Maybe the desperate Republicans on the board could arrange a podcast on election night so we can watch the meltdown as reality smacks you upside the head.
 
Foolmewunz said:
Is that why Obama carried Florida's Hispanic vote 60/39 in '12? 57/42 in '08. Hell, Kerry beat Bush there in '04. John Swiftboat Kerry, running in a state where Brother Jeb had the machine tied up, and the GOP lost in the demographic. 2000? Bush won. Remember the Clinton admin's farewell gift to the GOP? Elian Gonzalez/Janet Reno.

But the trend is moving solidly Democratic. And party registration for the Dems this year - i.e. new registrations is 8 thousand for the GOP and 16,000 for the Dems.

Are you getting your figures from the Karl Rove braintrust? Maybe the desperate Republicans on the board could arrange a podcast on election night so we can watch the meltdown as reality smacks you upside the head.
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Obama won Florida in 2012 by less than 1 point, and that was against sneering plutocrat Romney. Don't get too carried away. Minorities don't like the GOP, but white males HATE Hillary, which is why the current polling has it dead even. And if turnout is low, it helps the GOP.
 
Foolmewunz said:
Is that why Obama carried Florida's Hispanic vote 60/39 in '12? 57/42 in '08. Hell, Kerry beat Bush there in '04. John Swiftboat Kerry, running in a state where Brother Jeb had the machine tied up, and the GOP lost in the demographic. 2000? Bush won. Remember the Clinton admin's farewell gift to the GOP? Elian Gonzalez/Janet Reno.

But the trend is moving solidly Democratic. And party registration for the Dems this year - i.e. new registrations is 8 thousand for the GOP and 16,000 for the Dems.

Are you getting your figures from the Karl Rove braintrust? Maybe the desperate Republicans on the board could arrange a podcast on election night so we can watch the meltdown as reality smacks you upside the head.
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And how many voted in the Dem primary vs. the GOP primary?
 
Oops, forgot to address Harry's Guide to 2016 Election Polls, posted by Skeptical Ginger:
1. Wait. Shrug off polls until just before primaries, or until after the conventions for
the general election.
2. Ignore national primary polls — they measure nothing. (But state polls matter.)
3. Ignore hypothetical match-ups in primary season — they also measure nothing.
4. Look for polls of likely voters, not just registered voters.
5. Look for polls that use live interviewers; they’re more accurate.
6. Be wary of Internet polls; they’re less tested.
7. Know the polling firm — some are waaay better than others.
8. Margin of error and sample size matter less than who’s in the sample.
9. Beware polls tagged “bombshells” or “stunners.” Outliers are usually wrong.
10. Instead, look at averages or trends in polling.
11. Asking people about their votes “if the election were tomorrow” is designed to
heighten drama by reducing “undecided” responses.
12. Consider the motives of the media reporting on the polls. They want headlines.
http://media.wnyc.org/media/resources/2016/Jan/22/OTM_Consumer_Handbook__ElectionPollsEditionPDF.pdf

1. Irrelevant, these aren't primary polls, they're general election matchups
2. Irrelevant, these aren't national primary polls, ^^
3. Irrelevant, Trump vs. Clinton isn't hypothetical anymore (or at least, that's what the Hillary supporters are saying).
4. ROFL, the one "likely voter" poll out of the latest four has Trump up by 5. Way to help your case, Ginger.
5. All use live interviewers
6. Irrelevant
7. All reputable polling firms, so irrelevant
8. Reputable established polls use sample groups reflective of America
9. No outliers, bombshells or stunners. All recent polling shows the race tightening with Trump either in the margin of error or slightly ahead.
10 Again, no help here, Ginger. The trend is a tightening race.
11. Weird advice. All pre-election poll math-ups are predicated on "who would you vote for, at this moment?".
12. These are all regularly occurring polls media outlets report no matter what the result.

So Harry's guide doesn't matter. The predictive quality of the polls, which has been demonstrated, does.
 
Fudbucker said:
Do you really believe this? Do you not remember the sniper fire claim? Dead broke after leaving the White House? Being named after Edmund Hillary? Trying to join the Marines?
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I don't remember three of those as I've never heard of them. But they sound like completely inconsequential BS. Wasn't Brian Williams also needlessly and stupidly criticized for things like that?

Childlike Empress said:
In case you think the gibberish you put out in vast amounts bordering on verbosity is somehow impressive: It isn't. The USA you think you know has long ceased to exist. This is naked gaming the system by the system facing challenges by majorities "on both sides" feeling nothing but utter disgust about the status quo.
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How is giving a majority of delegates to the person that won "gaming the system"?
 
Travis said:
I don't remember three of those as I've never heard of them. But they sound like completely inconsequential BS. Wasn't Brian Williams also needlessly and stupidly criticized for things like that?
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No, he was busted down to MSNBC elections anchor for making **** up to make himself look better. People tend to not trust other people when they do that. Do you do that yourself? Do you just go around lying about yourself to impress people? Do you hang out with people who do? Or do you find it kind of creepy and off-putting? Yeah, I'm guessing you're like most people who sort of have a problem with it.
 
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