Hillary and the Black Panthers

MaGZ said:
"Youthful indiscretion."?

What if a college aged David Duke lead a demonstration back in those days in a Nazi uniform protesting campus radicals?

Would you dismiss that to "youthful indiscretion"?
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George W Bush. Cocaine. Drunk driving. Get over it.
 
gtc said:
Yes, the Black Panthers were bad.

Yes, Hillary Clinton helped to monitor a trial of Black Panthers activists for civil liberty violations.

No that doesn't make Hillary illegible for public office.

In fact it just proves that Hillary cares so much about Human Rights that she even worked to make sure that the rights of people as bad as the Panthers were not violated.

No, I am not a liberal partisan. It is just that MaGZ is enough to make Nixon vote Democrat.
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Hillary wasn’t just assisting in the defense of the Panthers; she had an ideological commitment to this murderous radical organization. Her concern wasn’t civil liberties but radical politics. Can you imagine her doing the same for a Klansman? This wasn’t the ACLU she was working with on the Panther defense but instead Stalinist Communists. Take a look at the lawyers who were defending the Panthers. Recently it was revealed that after Hillary finished law school, she wanted to go to work for a Communist law firm in California.
 
MaGZ said:
Hillary wasn’t just assisting in the defense of the Panthers; she had an ideological commitment to this murderous radical organization.
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Source?
Her concern wasn’t civil liberties but radical politics.
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Source?
Can you imagine her doing the same for a Klansman?
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Yes.
This wasn’t the ACLU she was working with on the Panther defense but instead Stalinist Communists.
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Source?
Take a look at the lawyers who were defending the Panthers.
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Why? What do those lawyers have to do with Hillary Clinton?
Recently it was revealed that after Hillary finished law school, she wanted to go to work for a Communist law firm in California.
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Source?

MaGZ said:
I did not provide any David Duke links for this thread.
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No one said you did.
So far, no one has noticed the significance of my David Duke analogy.
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I've noticed its insignificance.


I think the words you're looking for are, "I'm sorry I said you were mistaken when you said I had used davidduke.com as a source. You were right and I was wrong, I have in fact used davidduke.com as a source." It's okay to admit when you've made a mistake.
 
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autumn1971 said:
Wow, so anyone who supported the basic tenets of Communism as set forth by Marx is directly responsible for Stalin's atrocities?
Even those who had no way of knowing what the actual practices in Communist countries were?
I'm fairly certain the Hillary was never welcomed into the private meetings of the Black Panthers. If they were willing to torture their own officers to death upon suspicion of police complicity, I find it hard to believe that they would have welcomed a rich little white girl into their sanctum sanctorum.
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Here is an article on one little white girl the Panthers killed.
http://www.salon.com/news/col/horo/1999/12/13/betty/
 
linusrichard said:
Well, "infinitely" might be hyperbole, but as far as why I say the Panthers were better than the Klan - I guess it would be that the Black Panthers were motivated by self-defense, the Black Panthers were not mainly driven by racial hatred, the Panthers were out to resist oppressors, not to further oppress the already-oppressed... I could go on and on. Honestly, I think it's weird to even have to give reasons, because it should just be obvious.

As I said, I'm not a fan of violence. I'm also not a fan of Marxism, and particularly Maoism. So, I don't really like the Black Panthers. But compared to the worst terrorist organization in the history of the U.S., yes, they're much better.
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You know little or nothing about the Black Panthers. You ignorance speaks volumes.
 
Yes, you do a good job of that yourself.

There are a lot of things to dislike about all of the candidates, Hillary included, but this is straw-grasping at its finest.
 
MaGZ said:
You know little or nothing about the Black Panthers. You ignorance speaks volumes.
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Let's assume for the sake of argument you're right about my ignorance. How does it "speak volumes"? How does it have anything to do with this thread? Clinton was helping monitor the trial for civil rights violations. This is always a good thing. It doesn't matter if the trial was for a Klansman, a Nazi, al Qaeda, or you. It doesn't matter if the Black Panthers were as bad as you think they were or as bad as I think they were. Trials should be fair. Making sure trials are fair is a good thing. No information about the defendants is relevant.
 
MaGZ said:
Hillary wasn’t just assisting in the defense of the Panthers; she had an ideological commitment to this murderous radical organization. Her concern wasn’t civil liberties but radical politics.
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This is a lie.

Had you bothered to read the snopes link, you would know this.

Can you imagine her doing the same for a Klansman?
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Organizing legal witnesses to make sure the trial was fair? Probably not, seeing as how she's now a first-tier presidential candidate and not a campus activist anymore.

This wasn’t the ACLU she was working with on the Panther defense
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Again, lie.

but instead Stalinist Communists. Take a look at the lawyers who were defending the Panthers.
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The only article I've found to go in depth about the trial is this one, which refers to defense attorney (note the singular) Theodore Koskoff. I'm not aware of any reliable information identifying Koskoff as a "Stalinist Communist."

Recently it was revealed that after Hillary finished law school, she wanted to go to work for a Communist law firm in California.
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Riiiiight.

Any chance you'll tell us who did this revealing, what the evidence was, or what the "Communist law firm" was?

Yeah, I didn't think so.
 
MaGZ said:
Hillary Clinton's Radical Summer

http://www.nysun.com/article/66933
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You again! Tired of bashing the Jewish people, and so now it's the Presidential frontrunner's turn, eh? Or are you just taking a well-deserved break from bashing the Jewish people?

Why the hell are you posting a link to what some crazy Canadian thinks of Hillary? Most Canadians are not crazy, they're good and sane folks, and I think it's terrific that they have things to say about our American election - but just how much weight does it carry? This fool you linked to talks about the House Un-American Activities Committee as if that was a GOOD thing! Plus he likes Glen Beck!! That's a sure signpost to his idiocy right there.

Do you know what communism is? Do you know the difference between the Communist Party and the Democratic Party? Do you know ANYTHING?
 
I liked this part of the link where Hillary is supporting the Second Amendment gun rights for the Black Panthers.

Hilarious

The most eye-catching claim about Mrs. Clinton's time at the Treuhaft firm is that she attended a plea negotiation on behalf of armed Black Panthers who stormed into the California legislature on May 2, 1967 to protest a gun-control measure. The band of more than two dozen men toting rifles, shotguns and pistols caused alarm when they emerged on the floor of the legislature. They later insisted they were trying to reach the spectators' gallery and used the wrong door.
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MaGZ said:
I liked this part of the link where Hillary is supporting the Second Amendment gun rights for the Black Panthers.
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*sigh* Except that the link has her doing no such thing. As a clerk, it was her job to take notes.




I can't believe I'm defending Hillary Clinton. I feel...dirty. :boggled:
 
From the Radical Summer article,

She did want to work for a left-wing movement law firm. Anyone who went to college or law school would have known our law firm was a Communist law firm," Treuhaft told Ms. Sheehy in 1999.
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This makes Hillary a "fellow traveler" among Communists and therefor unfit to be President.
 
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