Herman Cain leads by 20 points!

Robert Prey said:
These posts conjure images of die hard Lefties whistling past the graveyard.
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Got anything to counter the facts I posted, Robert? Or just your usual unsubstantiated partisanship? Zogby are infamous for being a public relations firm first and pollsters second. They also, as I said above, seem to have the most dubious methodology imaginable. There's a reason that no one ever cites them aside from Ronulans and 911 Truthers.
 
Drachasor said:
Hmm, really? That's not how I remember it from 4 years ago and before.
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I was being a bit facetious because they've been known to tailor questions similar to "When did you stop beating your wife?" for clients who wish polls done.

Nate Silver(Five Thirty Eight) ranked them as the worst polling organization of the lot.
 
Neally said:
I'd go with a successful businessman over someone who's background consisted of only working as a community organizer and other government positions.

http://http://www.hermancain.com/999plan
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Here's the problem I have with talking about his being "qualified". What's NOT qualified is a Senator or Congressman. What is qualified is someone with experience as a Governor, a VP or other significant activities.

That excludes Obama, but that's not my point.

What SHOULD be qualfying is significant experience in the private sector.

Whether the voting public can realize that and vote accordingly is another matter. Romney is a glib, practiced, polished politician.

Is that the solution, or the problem?
 
Tsukasa Buddha said:
For decades Black people have had a large tendency to support White Democrats over White Republicans. I highly doubt a Black Democrat versus a Black Republican will change this election dynamic.
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Especially when said Black Republican has said that blacks are brainwashed. That's not a good way to court votes.
 
According to this poll Romney is way ahead in New Hampshire. Let's face it: These poll are going to be up and down and all over the map. It wasn't that long ago that Perry was the golden boy. I agree with NotJesus: It will probably be Romney in the end.
 
Foolmewunz said:
Meanwhile, Jude, back in the real world no other poll has Cain with more than 17%.
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Oh noes!!11! You got me!

Who cares? So what? You want to argue about Zogby?! Freaking fine. Zogby retracted. Eliminated. Gone.

The point?

Herman Cain surges well ahead into the lead.

There.

Argue with that.

Now be sure to tell me about the real world in personal antagonism, because that's what really matters in the Hermain Cain-takes-the-lead-at-the-moment thread...

*sigh*
 
According to this recent poll Cain and Romney are tied at 17% each, with Perry following them at 12%. A ringing 17%, or even a rating just under 40%, won't get a candidate elected. Again, these polls will vary; the voters will change their minds over time; and little of it means much of anything.

While I'd dearly love to see the Republican Party tear itself to pieces in a bitter nomination fight at their convention, I still predict that, by the time that convention is held, Romney will be the nominee apparent.
 
mhaze said:
What SHOULD be qualfying is significant experience in the private sector.

Whether the voting public can realize that and vote accordingly is another matter. Romney is a glib, practiced, polished politician.

Is that the solution, or the problem?
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Well-said.
 
Neally said:
I'd go with a successful businessman over someone who's background consisted of only working as a community organizer and other government positions.
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Yes, because experience in government means nothing, right? Whereas running a pizza chain means you can run a country? Seriously? Or is it his experience serving on boards that makes him qualified?

Neally said:
http://http://www.hermancain.com/999plan
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Seriously? The 999 plan is insane. Regressive taxes are awful for one, and it wouldn't raise nearly enough revenue for another. Another "don't tax and do spend" Republican.
 
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This poll is okay but the sample is strange, so I would not put much stock in it unless other polls show si,ilar results.

"IBOPE Zogby International conducted an online survey of 1,581 voters. A sampling of IBOPE Zogby International's online panel, which is representative of the adult population of the U.S., was invited to participate. Slight weights were added to region, party, age, race, religion, gender and education to more accurately reflect the population. The margin of error is +/- 2.5 percentage points. Margins of error are higher in sub-groups. The MOE calculation is for sampling error only.
IBOPE Zogby International also conducted an online survey of 796 likely Republican primary voters. The margin of error is +/- 3.5 percentage points."
 
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TimCallahan said:
Yeah: electing a mediocre, has-been actor president.
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Reagan had been governor of California - I'm wondering if there is precedent for someone with no political experience being elected president.
 
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