Help me pleaseTribulus terrestris,steroidal saponins = muscles and erections?? Help??

[freudianlip]

Tribulus terrestris a derivative of Yucca bark or something, claims to boost muscle, testosterone in males and resolve erectile dysfunction. Actually, I found this cr*p in my 18 yr old sons bathroom, and I need to be able to explain to him.. with scientific validation, why he does not need to use this.. any one can anyone help me... He is too old to ground and remove the stuff with out some sort of reason?? Please help!

 

[freudianlip]

Animal studies (1) have shown some possible benefits but I am looking for human evidence of any positive or negative effects.
(1)ffects of Tribulus terrestris on endocrine sensitive organs in male and female Wistar rats
Anderson J. Martino-Andradea, , , , Rosana N. Moraisa, Katherinne M. Spercoskia, Stefani C. Rossib, Marina F. Vechib, Munisa Golinb, Natália F. Lombardib, Cláudio S. Grecac, Paulo R. Dalsenterb

 

[BenBurch]

Just tell him that viagra was tested on thousands of people and found to be safe, but he is rolling the dice with his life if he uses that quack remedy.

And if he has erectile issues at his age, he needs to see a urologist STAT.

 

[freudianlip]

I believe he feels it will give him maximum muscle build for minimum exercise based input and also the label claims to help alleviate, tiredness and moody feelings... Its scarey that at 18yrs old he is susceptible to buying into the fast chemical fix ethos.. I am very concerned.. and I have tried to raise him with critical thinking skills... so much for that versus the power of media and his peers...

 

[JWideman]

That could indicate he uses steroids. Bodybuilders use it when they're off-cycle, believing it makes the body return to its natural testosterone state. It doesn't.
Some take it as an alternative to steroids. That doesn't work either.
Reference:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15994038
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11601567
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10997957

 

[freudianlip]

Thank you so much at least I can have a frank discussion with him now, using these abstracts and some sense.

 

[freudianlip]

I also found this which is terrifying "http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20667992" (Tribulus terrestris-induced severe nephrotoxicity in a young healthy male.)

 

[DallasDad]

Good luck with it. I'll be thinking of you. My guys aren't that old yet, but I can see the peer pressure mounting with each passing year.

 

[Halfcentaur]

I believe he feels it will give him maximum muscle build for minimum exercise based input and also the label claims to help alleviate, tiredness and moody feelings... Its scarey that at 18yrs old he is susceptible to buying into the fast chemical fix ethos.. I am very concerned.. and I have tried to raise him with critical thinking skills... so much for that versus the power of media and his peers...

Just remember everyone messes up and trial and error is necessary part of growing up, don't expect perfection. And don't forget it's just as likely he is capable of pressuring his peers as he is likely to be pressured.

 

[freudianlip]

This so true.. and what young fellow doesn't wish to have muscles.. and if they can be got the easy way.. I guess most boys might try..it could be way worse.. he does not drink, smoke or screw around.. he is great help at home and does well in school....
He has a strong group of friends and they are good support to him. But I hope that he now understands the importance of working hard to achieve results and not seeking "the Fast Fix" !