Lord Kenneth
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Even worse is the fact that degrees don't mean a damn thing concerning how intelligent you are.
Educated, yes, intelligent, no.
Educated, yes, intelligent, no.
Help! A Numerologist is Coming to Town!
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He's a teenager, without any degrees (even a high school one), and yet he gets right what so many, many posuers get wrong.Lord Kenneth said:
I would make fun of T'Chump's orgy of exhibitionism, but I put the loser on ignore after his first post (like, months ago).
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Yahzi said:
You ignored Whodini too?
Hi BillHoyt. You challenged a poster to your question as to what field would use a statician and geophysicist? I think the oil industry would. When I lived at my beach house in Texas, companies that were contracted by an oil company would come and do 'soundings' ...a way of sort of x-raying deep into the earth, below the Gulf, as to get a 'map' of the underground strata.
The statician part of it would come into play with comparative analysis, and I'm sure figures would be tossed around.
The statician part of it would come into play with comparative analysis, and I'm sure figures would be tossed around.
Kevin_Lowe said:
I agree with you Kevin, 100%. I would also say that Lord Kenneth is an intelligent person.
I simply have problems with someone, anyone, claiming I am not intelligent. I will stick up for myself by asking them if they have done any of the things I have.
If they haven't, then they haven't. Pure and simple.
I agree that that doesn't necessarily mean that I am more intelligent, etc., but it is an indicator that I graduated sucessfully from several universities, so their claims are pretty empty.
Kevin_Lowe said:
I agree with you Kevin, 100%. I would also say that Lord Kenneth is an intelligent person.
I simply have problems with someone, anyone, claiming I am not intelligent. I will stick up for myself by asking them if they have done any of the things I have.
If they haven't, then they haven't. Pure and simple.
I agree that that doesn't necessarily mean that I am more intelligent, etc., but it is an indicator that I graduated sucessfully from several universities, so their claims are pretty empty.
Measuring intelligencve can be most difficult...at least sometimes. Sure...if some guy doesn' know how to even sweep properly...and can't comprehend simple math or scientific principles...well... (cough). But what do you make of the guy who just went to high school. Was probably a cor B student...probably didn't 'get' math too well. Yet, after hight school, was able to design a 'trike' from scratch...and go on to build such things as a hewn log museum, with enormous chainsaw carved statues, and build a working pool-size table labyrinth...and draws crowds to see his masterpieces. This is a guy I know. A real life story. There are other cases like him. Can you figure such a thing out?
Then, on the other end of the spectrum, I know a Ph.D., who wouldn't know which side of a lockset should face in or out on a door. For real. (Granted...his degree is in English). He calls ME a doctor...and I'm the one relatively uneducated (at least from the standpoint of classroom instruction). I 'learned' more, after I got out of high school. And there are others like me, in that regard. I went on to do great things, like 'invent a way to get water to boil 19.5% faster, and sent the idea to a kettle company.
(I'm not kidding!) or, discovering how through ph reversal of mineral deposits, one can remove the deposits better/quicker...and wrote several chemical companies and got favorable responses.. And other things. I have hundreds of writings and drawings at home, including Leonardo Da Vinci like sketches, drawings regarding architecture, etc. The corrolations between water useage and electrical consumption from deep wells. Discovering underground water leaks through pressure guage testing and extrapalation of distances.
I think that if you are a "thinker' type, you can go on to great things, regardless of your 'crudentials'. There are many people who are in a lesser field, that COULD have been a doctor, but didn't become one because they don't like blood, for one example. Or, they didn't want to be a lawyer because they didn't want to try to screw people or try to help a guilty party get off the hook on some technicality...etc.
Then, on the other end of the spectrum, I know a Ph.D., who wouldn't know which side of a lockset should face in or out on a door. For real. (Granted...his degree is in English). He calls ME a doctor...and I'm the one relatively uneducated (at least from the standpoint of classroom instruction). I 'learned' more, after I got out of high school. And there are others like me, in that regard. I went on to do great things, like 'invent a way to get water to boil 19.5% faster, and sent the idea to a kettle company.
(I'm not kidding!) or, discovering how through ph reversal of mineral deposits, one can remove the deposits better/quicker...and wrote several chemical companies and got favorable responses.. And other things. I have hundreds of writings and drawings at home, including Leonardo Da Vinci like sketches, drawings regarding architecture, etc. The corrolations between water useage and electrical consumption from deep wells. Discovering underground water leaks through pressure guage testing and extrapalation of distances.I think that if you are a "thinker' type, you can go on to great things, regardless of your 'crudentials'. There are many people who are in a lesser field, that COULD have been a doctor, but didn't become one because they don't like blood, for one example. Or, they didn't want to be a lawyer because they didn't want to try to screw people or try to help a guilty party get off the hook on some technicality...etc.
The Results!
Good gravy, people. As soon as I leave, that's when all the postings go up, huh?
So here's the scoop: I printed out about fifty little flyers that I Illustrator'ed, with some basic facts about Numerology (properly cited), along with a picture of J.A. Paulos's Innumeracy and one of Newmerology.
I showed up at Borders about 30 minutes beforehand: there are maybe twenty chairs there. Two old (sorry, they were old) and fat (as in actually morbidly obese) women were waiting.
I read about orangutans and lizards while watching all this.
At 6:45, Newmont shows up. He is, hands down, the sleaziest looking guy I had seen all day. Inexplicable oily & orangish tan. Nice suit, though. Newmerology must be lucrative. He starts handing out some sort of worksheet type paper to the now nineteen women and one man.
The whole mise-en-scene is just grim and unpleasant. The small crowd and the laminate-over-plywood table and me skulking behind a copy of
Spiny-Tailed Agamids and the mostly obsese crowd then fanning themselves with the worksheet and it's really depressing and I think about just going home.
So anyway as soon as Newmont starts talking to some Borders employee I start handing them the flyers, doing the whole "these are for you as well" kind of thing, "pass them to your neighbor" and so on, and I leave the rest on Newmont's lecturn/plywood-laminate table. Pretty much everyone seems really confused and is looking at one and then the other and then finally one woman in the back gets it and smiles at me and laughs understandingly and I can't for the life of me figure out why she's there.
Then I left. I'd heard enough of Newmont that morning.
Good gravy, people. As soon as I leave, that's when all the postings go up, huh?
So here's the scoop: I printed out about fifty little flyers that I Illustrator'ed, with some basic facts about Numerology (properly cited), along with a picture of J.A. Paulos's Innumeracy and one of Newmerology.
I showed up at Borders about 30 minutes beforehand: there are maybe twenty chairs there. Two old (sorry, they were old) and fat (as in actually morbidly obese) women were waiting.
I read about orangutans and lizards while watching all this.
At 6:45, Newmont shows up. He is, hands down, the sleaziest looking guy I had seen all day. Inexplicable oily & orangish tan. Nice suit, though. Newmerology must be lucrative. He starts handing out some sort of worksheet type paper to the now nineteen women and one man.
The whole mise-en-scene is just grim and unpleasant. The small crowd and the laminate-over-plywood table and me skulking behind a copy of
Spiny-Tailed Agamids and the mostly obsese crowd then fanning themselves with the worksheet and it's really depressing and I think about just going home.
So anyway as soon as Newmont starts talking to some Borders employee I start handing them the flyers, doing the whole "these are for you as well" kind of thing, "pass them to your neighbor" and so on, and I leave the rest on Newmont's lecturn/plywood-laminate table. Pretty much everyone seems really confused and is looking at one and then the other and then finally one woman in the back gets it and smiles at me and laughs understandingly and I can't for the life of me figure out why she's there.
Then I left. I'd heard enough of Newmont that morning.
BillHoyt said:
Oh, goody. Let's talk about geostat. Recognize this?
What is it?
I think it is to estimate a correlogram, something which is used in spatial statistics to estimate the correlation among points a distance h away. Correlation most typically decreases with distance. I used this all the time in a time series and spatial statistics course I took, although in a different form.
The main hint was the use of rho(h). Rho is the population parameter for correlation. And h, believe it or not, is used often as a distance.
Child's play, Bill.
Here is a GREAT hint for the future, Einstein. Make sure to remove the link from your post next time. All anybody had to do was see your link when they replied:
http://www.gypsymoth.ento.vt.edu/~sharov/PopEcol/lec2/eqcorrel.gif
and keep removing end terms until they reached the ecology page http://www.gypsymoth.ento.vt.edu/~sharov/PopEcol/. Then simply click on the "Elements of Geostatistics" link, to find your formula about 25 lines down.
Quit trying to stump me whenever you can. It is getting old and you aren't very good at it. At the very least, keep your mission confined to the one thread that you specifically created for the purpose.
T'ai Chi said:
But, who, I'd have no interest in tweaking you if you weren't so interesting in laying claims to degrees and knowledge and then ranting on about what degrees others may or may not have. You could have fourteen Harvard degrees. That wouldn't change the status of a claim you make. It is still either right or wrong. And it will be assessed independent of however many degrees you claim.
Re: Iamme's question as to why I don't start a "Xianity is dumb" thread, it's because that's a pretty pointless thread to start, and a waste of everyone's time.
And why is T'ai Chi/Whodini the statistician so supportive of numerology?
And re: T'ai Chi's "all other things being equal, "the person who has more formal education is more intelligent": that's the dumbest thing I've ever seen you post.
E.g.: two people, Neil and Bob, are identical in all aspects. Each just graduated from high school. Neil goes to the Southwest College of Naturopathic Medicine and earns whatever degree it is they offer. A B.S., say.
While Neil is attending S.C.N.M. classes, Bob goes to the library and studies whatever it is he's interested in. Would you submit, T'ai, that Neil is still more intelligent than Bob? Getting a degree takes time that might be spent better elsewhere. And what about two people about to graduate, but one hasn't paid his or her library fines and so doesn't get the official diploma. Is that person less intelligent?
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And why is T'ai Chi/Whodini the statistician so supportive of numerology?
And re: T'ai Chi's "all other things being equal, "the person who has more formal education is more intelligent": that's the dumbest thing I've ever seen you post.
E.g.: two people, Neil and Bob, are identical in all aspects. Each just graduated from high school. Neil goes to the Southwest College of Naturopathic Medicine and earns whatever degree it is they offer. A B.S., say.
While Neil is attending S.C.N.M. classes, Bob goes to the library and studies whatever it is he's interested in. Would you submit, T'ai, that Neil is still more intelligent than Bob? Getting a degree takes time that might be spent better elsewhere. And what about two people about to graduate, but one hasn't paid his or her library fines and so doesn't get the official diploma. Is that person less intelligent?
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BillHoyt said:
You've been unsuccessful in every math/stat attempt so far. When will it end, Bill? That 1 time out of 100 that you managed to stump me? The time you managed to find some obscure formula that I haven't ever seen? Wow, that'll prove things, now won't it.
If you want to "tweak" me, at least confine it to one thread.
(a thread which is, by the way, soon going to go in the flame section I predict)
Let's leave this thread, Bill.
LFTKBS said:
Don't make the mistake of confusing me for a numerology supporter. I'm definitely not. All I'm saying is I am not for handing out anti-numerology or 'why numerology is wrong' handouts at a Borders numerology meeting.
Well, we are all entitled to our opinions. That "all other things being equal" part is important, I think.
Good example. Of course, by degrees, I definitely meant traditional degrees from traditional universities in traditional courses.