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Hello from a non-skeptic

I'm friends with two brothers who among our circle of friends are jokingly known as machine jinxes.
Each of us can relate at least two or three different experiences where one of the two would touch or even approach a machine/computer and it would malfunction, often hilariously and inexplicably, so clearly their very presence must have done this.....

Then again, I've known them for 10 years and both own machines and make their living in IT. They must turn on computers and the like thousands of times if not more each year and walk by their equipment even more. And all those times everything functions as normal. So statistically the errors they 'caused' are nothing. Yet that is what we remember and what gave them their nickname.

Don't underestimate the human nature to look for correlations that are not there.
 
My mind, she is blown. Mr Kipling makes exceedingly good firearms? Love it.

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I'm not sure this thread has rails to go off. Are we discussing psychics, genealogical links to famous people or quantum physics?
I can't keep up. The pixies who live in the photocopier I think. They're quantum-sized.
 
and i just told you that you need a volume of prerequisite bass knowledge to even try to undo the limiting locks you have welded (as in there is no key) on to your current rigid bland views and statements to try to wrap your head around it (based on my experience with you, you have way too made up of a mind to try and bridge the disparity between what you think is impossible, and what i am attempting to impress on higher vibrating potential students that are more on the fence...)

I asked you what the subject was. I didn't ask you to make me believe in it. Evasion noted. No sale.

If anyone - even a child - asked a physicist what quantum physics was, I'd expect they could at least provide a definition. I really hope none would be such a jerk as to refuse even to try, claiming you'd have to spend years of study before their description could make any sense.
 
and i just told you that you need a volume of prerequisite bass knowledge to even try to undo the limiting locks you have welded (as in there is no key) on to your current rigid bland views and statements to try to wrap your head around it (based on my experience with you, you have way too made up of a mind to try and bridge the disparity between what you think is impossible, and what i am attempting to impress on higher vibrating potential students that are more on the fence...)
Thank you for this excellent example of my second class of believers those who display the need to feel superior to others by having "special" knowledge that is unknown to the majority of people. When confronted they usually use the same tactics as you do here; accusing others of being "close minded", unable to see past the obvious and of having made up their minds already. And then there the Joycean sentences.........
I also notice you have not posted a scintilla of evidence for your viewpoint.
 
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I can't keep up. The pixies who live in the photocopier I think. They're quantum-sized.

I know what you're thinking, punk. Did I eat six cakes or only five? Well to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I'm feeling a bit sick anyway so I won't have another. More tea, vicar?
 
Hi everyone,

My time-frame here in Rio is different to most here, I imagine, so please excuse me for only coming back to this thread today. It was getting late last night and I was getting a little too tired for long explanations. I have read your replies and questions, but rather than answer them one by one, I think it would be best to tell you about the events that happened to me from the beginning, and hopefully in this way answer at least most of your questions. What I am going to share cannot be summarised into just one post, so please have a little patience and hold your impetus to instantly come at me with your rebuffs. I think I pretty much know what they will be. It is not each individual occurrence that matters, but the combination of all of them, so please let me take it to the end. It will only truly make sense once I do.

As I said before here, it is not my intention to try to convince anyone, but to provide some food for thought. I am fully aware that what I will share cannot be considered as "proof" of any kind, but it will at least give you a picture as to why I came to believe in what I do, and hopefully provoke some reflections, which as I said is my only true intention here.

I was born in Scotland in 1960, but my parents moved to Brazil when I was three. As I was born in St Andrew’s, in the county of Fife in Scotland, and because my mother’s youngest brother’s name is Charles, my father’s youngest brother’s name is Edward, the Stuart middle name runs in my mother’s family and Boden was his surname, my father christened me by the name of Charles Edward Stuart Boden, after the 18th century Stuart prince known as Bonnie Prince Charlie.

Amidst the oldest memories that I have, from when I was still only a young child of four or five, I can remember that my father used to sing me a song composed for Prince Charles Edward Stuart (1720-1788), whose lyrics began something like this:

Charlie is my darling, my darling, my darling;
Charlie is my darling, the Young Chevalier.
T’was on a Monday morning,
The crowds all gathered near,
When Charlie came to our town,
The young Chevalier...

Even at such an early age, I could swear that to this day I can still remember that, whenever he did, I used to have “mental visions”, which most people would refer to as “mere imagination”. On one occasion, I “saw” a pair of army boots resting upon a stool beside a fireplace, while a minstrel sat playing this same song. On another occasion the vision was of a fair-haired young boy playing with a young girl in the backyard of a palace, placing a golden bracelet across a trickle of water, building an imaginary golden bridge, patting its extremities into the mud so as to keep the bracelet bridge in place and saying to the young girl:

“When I grow up and become King, I shall build a bridge made of gold just like this one especially for you...”

A maid-servant appeared at what seemed to be the kitchen door to summon us inside, as the overhanging clouds were turning dark and there was the threat of imminent rain. The golden bracelet got left behind, and was either lost in the mud or swiped by a servant to whom a probably greater need and use may have arisen. Then there was the feeling of fear of the right and proper scolding that I would most certainly get from my tutors and parents for having lost it.

Memories and mental visions are interesting topics. Where do they sprout from? Are they, as our modern scientists tell us, merely the results of electro-chemical activities of the human brain? Are they real, or are they mere products of our imagination? Indeed, what is this thing we call “thought” or “consciousness”? Who or what is this “I” who thinks, visualizes, feels and remembers?

Another particular “mental vision” I used to have was of an entrance to a small town. In my childhood imagination, I could “see” myself riding upon a dark horse ahead of a troop of Scottish soldiers, heading towards a row of houses at the entrance of this small town, the same town in which I had “imagined” the minstrel playing his song.

How can a child recall lives that could not possibly have been his own? How can a child have visions of what he has never seen? How can some children, as has been so vastly documented by researchers such as American psychologist Dr. Ian Stevenson, remember parents, relatives and events pertaining to another person that not themselves; or adults who seem to “remember” past lives under hypnosis, as has been so deeply investigated and widely divulged by the also American psychologist Dr. Brian Weiss? Where does this “imagination” come from? Where do children’s “play games” and “play friends” originate from? Where did my imaginations originate from? Who can say for certain? All I can say is that they were there, and for some reason remained in my “memory” ever since.

To be continued... :)
 
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Charlie Is My Darling was written about, rather than for, Bonnie Prince Charlie. My father used to sing it to me, and he has no Scottish connections that I can discern; it was a popular children's song in the 60s.

Mind you, Charlie wasn't very Scottish in the strictest sense of the word, being born in Italy to a part French, part Scottish father and a Polish mother.

Where does the imagination come from? Which is more likely, that you've heard tales of the exploits of the Jacobites, seen pictures in fairy tale books of castles, minstrels, boots, horses, etc, caught snippets of conversations, and like children do, put your own explanation on them; or that memories can be passed down by some hitherto unexplained phenomenon?
 
It's a nice story, but if you were the reincarnation of Prince Charlie, and born in 1960, then you'll need to take it up with the late Denys BowerWP, another reincarnation of the young chevalier, who didn't die until 1977.

Perhaps between these dates you were in fact a pair of charlies.
 
...How can some children, as has been so vastly documented by researchers such as American psychologist Dr. Ian Stevenson, remember parents, relatives and events pertaining to another person that not themselves; or adults who seem to “remember” past lives under hypnosis, as has been so deeply investigated and widely divulged by the also American psychologist Dr. Brian Weiss? ...
I think several people asked you to refrain from the "argument from vast unpresented documentation". Honestly, if you want anyone here to seriously consider any claim you make, then please include the evidence.
Please point us to the vast documentation and any wide divulgences you deem relevant, so we can take a look, form our own opinions and ask you questions about what it is you find particularly convincing about it.

Thank you.
 
I know you are all going to find this quite incredible. The story I am about to tell is truly amazing. I am convinced no-one will have come across a story similar to mine. It concerns past lives and reincarnation….. I know what you are thinking but, you are wrong. This story is very very different to the normal ones you usually hear. Here goes. I once met someone who was a reincarnation of someone who wasn’t famous. There. Told you it was shocking.
 
Wrong. The closest connection I have to any "Royal Family", genealogically speaking, is to James IV.


But the Stuarts themselves haven't been the British royal family since 1688. The royal families of Europe are all highly interbred, so if you're related to one of them you are related to all of them.
 
I know you are all going to find this quite incredible. The story I am about to tell is truly amazing. I am convinced no-one will have come across a story similar to mine. It concerns past lives and reincarnation….. I know what you are thinking but, you are wrong. This story is very very different to the normal ones you usually hear. Here goes. I once met someone who was a reincarnation of someone who wasn’t famous. There. Told you it was shocking.
Yeah, but who was it?
 
I find my patience waning and think that Lothian's last post hits the nail squarely on the head (in two ways). I will likely bow out of this thread as you, Charles, appear incapable of or unwilling to stick to one topic and present evidence for it.

I did read your full post about your childhood and memories of the Bonnie Prince, but besides demonstrating nothing except that children imagine things, especially those about which they already have some knowledge, your statement (copied below) is quite telling:

Charles Boden said:
It is not each individual occurrence that matters, but the combination of all of them, so please let me take it to the end. It will only truly make sense once I do.
You are incorrect. It is each individual occurrence that matters as well as the combination of them. A tapestry woven from flax does not suddenly become gold simply because we stand at a distance and squint.
 
I am sorry but on hearing the story I fainted, banging my head as I fell. I can’t remember who it was. Even now I wonder if it was just a dream.
If it was a dream that would merely prove that you are psychic as well as proving reincarnation.
 
I thought you needed two similar anecdotes for it to become proof.
You have three:

1. The story from your unknown friend
2. The story from the person your unknown friend is the reincarnation of
3. Your story here

Voila. You have made pseudoscientific history.
 
Not to be too negative Charles, but from your stories it is clear that your family places some stock in your connection to the house of stuart. As you seem to know geneaology and everything, which for most of us kinda stops at grandparents/great grandparents.
I'd therefore hazard to guess that you've grown up on stories about your famous ancestors.
Has it occurred to you that your memories are in fact a combination of old childhood fantasies, mixed with the general 'lost prince' type literature young children tend to read and a bit of wishful re-interpretation on your part?
 
As I said before here, it is not my intention to try to convince anyone, but to provide some food for thought. I am fully aware that what I will share cannot be considered as "proof" of any kind, but it will at least give you a picture as to why I came to believe in what I do, and hopefully provoke some reflections, which as I said is my only true intention here.
So you're only here to tell us what you believe and why, and hope it makes us consider believing likewise? You have no intention of listening to what anyone else here thinks and why, let alone of contemplating the possibility that you're the one who should be reconsidering your position in the light of all the available evidence?

Do you seriously think you have anything to say that we have not heard dozens of times before? Do you seriously think that yet another example of someone trotting out the same old anecdotes and demonstrating the same complete lack of knowledge and understanding of everything from probability theory to the mechanism of human perception is going to make us seriously reconsider what (in many cases) years of careful investigation and study have taught us?

If you have any genuine evidence to share, by all means do so. Otherwise you are wasting your time and ours.
 
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