Has Dr Sam Parnia's study on near-death experiences been published yet?

[Sgt Doom]

I've been searching around for it, and all indications were it was to be published late-2011, but haven't been able to find it, or any news articles discussing the results. I find the premise to be deeply interesting and am rather bummed that I can't seem to find it.

 

[Arouet]

Nope. Think the earliest reported lately is late this year.

 

[Sgt Doom]

Bugger :/
Was looking forward to reading it, seems like a particularly interesting and well thought-out test of NDEs.

 

[Czarcasm]

I've been searching around for it, and all indications were it was to be published late-2011, but haven't been able to find it, or any news articles discussing the results.

The three year study didn't start until October of 2008, so it didn't even finish until October of 2011. Given the time needed to study that amount of data, the results probably won't be released until late summer or fall of this year.

 

[Porterboy]

Bugger :/
Was looking forward to reading it, seems like a particularly interesting and well thought-out test of NDEs.

Me too. I guess we'll just have to let him take his time to get the data analysis right. There have been studies like these done before that have failed to show any positive results. I except Dr Parnia will be careful to try to do better this time.

 

[Moss]

Me too. I guess we'll just have to let him take his time to get the data analysis right. There have been studies like these done before that have failed to show any positive results. I except Dr Parnia will be careful to try to do better this time.

The highlighted part has me somewhat confused. What exactly are you trying to say? That previous studies have not had sufficient scientific rigor? A failure to show positive results might be due to there being nothing to show.

 

[Porterboy]

The highlighted part has me somewhat confused. What exactly are you trying to say? That previous studies have not had sufficient scientific rigor? A failure to show positive results might be due to there being nothing to show.

I'll rephrase: There have been studies like these (on the nature of NDE's) done before that have both lacked scientific rigour and also failed to demonstrate any positive evidence of the mind existing outside the brain when the patient is close to death. Hope that clarifies things for you.

 

[CastorTroyy]

I'll rephrase: There have been studies like these (on the nature of NDE's) done before that have both lacked scientific rigour and also failed to demonstrate any positive evidence of the mind existing outside the brain when the patient is close to death. Hope that clarifies things for you.

Just because they didn't show any positive evidence doesn't mean that it exists, but they just happened to miss it. It may very well be due to there actually being no phenomena such as "mind outside the brain."

 

[Porterboy]

It may very well be due to there actually being no phenomena such as "mind outside the brain."

Yes, I know. But this area of research goes on, although it's looking less and less likely they'll find anything.

 

[Aepervius]

I am throwing a wild guess here, but that we did not hear life breaking preliminary result seem to indicate there is no smoking gun for "after life". I am willing to be that none of the patient came close to describe the hidden picture/object.

 

[Porterboy]

I am throwing a wild guess here, but that we did not hear life breaking preliminary result seem to indicate there is no smoking gun for "after life". I am willing to be that none of the patient came close to describe the hidden picture/object.

I wish I was that good at wild guesses.

 

[Foolmewunz]

Can anyone get beyond the paywall?

The results are in.... and the conclusion?

"More studies needed!"

Quelle surprise!


http://www.southampton.ac.uk/mediacentre/news/2014/oct/14_181.shtml


The link is to the Uni that sponsored his study. In it they link to the journal that published the results (Resuscitation) but it's a pay to view.... The recap on University of Southampton's page makes no mention of the hidden objects test, if that was even included. The numbers mentioned in the summary are meaningless without having more data.

So send moar monney! We need to study this more. Not in the least surprising. How long did the folks at Princeton get away with that gambit?

 

[p0lka]

same old same old.

 

[Olowkow]

Isn't this the study in question?

Parnia is the principal investigator of the AWARE study (AWAreness during REsuscitation), which was launched in 2008. The study includes medical centers across the UK, mainland Europe and North America.[11][12][6][13][14][15] AWARE is a multidisciplinary multicenter international collaboration of scientists, physicians and nurses. This study incorporates testing of awareness and near-death experiences (NDE) during cardiac arrest with methods aimed at measuring the quality of oxygen delivery to the brain.

Results in Resuscitation

On October 6, 2014 the results of the study were published in the journal Resuscitation.

Among those who reported a perception of awareness and completed further interviews, 46 per cent experienced a broad range of mental recollections in relation to death that were not compatible with the commonly used term of NDEs. These included fearful and persecutory experiences. Only 9 per cent had experiences compatible with NDEs and 2 per cent exhibited full awareness compatible with OBEs with explicit recall of 'seeing' and 'hearing' events. One case was validated and timed using auditory stimuli during cardiac arrest.[20] According to Dr. Caroline Watt, "The one ‘verifiable period of conscious awareness’ that Parnia was able to report did not relate to this objective test. Rather, it was a patient giving a supposedly accurate report of events during his resuscitation. He didn’t identify the pictures, he described the defibrillator machine noise. But that’s not very impressive since many people know what goes on in an emergency room setting from seeing recreations on television."

 

[turingtest]

The results are in.... and the conclusion?

"More studies needed!"

Quelle surprise!


http://www.southampton.ac.uk/mediacentre/news/2014/oct/14_181.shtml


The link is to the Uni that sponsored his study. In it they link to the journal that published the results (Resuscitation) but it's a pay to view.... The recap on University of Southampton's page makes no mention of the hidden objects test, if that was even included. The numbers mentioned in the summary are meaningless without having more data.

So send moar monney! We need to study this more. Not in the least surprising. How long did the folks at Princeton get away with that gambit?

Which is grist for the NDE-enthusiast mill, the push that keeps the circle intact- "We need to study this more! And the very fact that all these scientists study NDEs more proves there's something really real to be studied!"