Harry Potter Speculation thread - NO SPOILERS!

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For Harry Potter fans: The book comes out Sat, so make your predictions now. NO SPOILERS! If you've got inside information, we don't want to know. Just give us your guesses. Things like

1) Who is the half-blood prince? Could be Voldemort. Isn't Harry's father a half-blood?

2) Who dies?

3) Any other of the usual characters play a big role? Neville? Aunt Petunia?

4) How many OWLs does Harry get? Is he still qualified to be an auror?

etc
 
I don't think Harry's father was half-blood. At least I don't think James' parentage has been stated. I think Harry's parentage is supposed to be similar to Voldemort's. Voldie's mum was full-blood and his dad a Muggle. Harry's dad was full-blood and his mum a Muggle. My first guess as to the identity of the half-blood prince was Seamus, but I'm probably wrong.

If the story follows a typical hero journey, Dumbledore will die.


I think Neville will play a bigger role and maybe Draco (rather than just being the annoyance he usually is).

No idea how many OWLs Harry will get. He seems to be quite a powerful young wizard, but not much with the book learnin'.
 
Lisa Simpson said:
I don't think Harry's father was half-blood. At least I don't think James' parentage has been stated. I think Harry's parentage is supposed to be similar to Voldemort's. Voldie's mum was full-blood and his dad a Muggle. Harry's dad was full-blood and his mum a Muggle.

Harry's mom went to Hogwarts.

One of Harry's parents is a half-blood, we know. But Harry's parents were witches.



My first guess as to the identity of the half-blood prince was Seamus, but I'm probably wrong.

If the story follows a typical hero journey, Dumbledore will die.



I wouldn't be surprised if Harry is the next Headmaster (even at his young age, yes)



I think Neville will play a bigger role and maybe Draco (rather than just being the annoyance he usually is).


How about Draco becoming a Death Eater?

Wouldn't it be cool to see a showdown between Draco and Snape?


No idea how many OWLs Harry will get. He seems to be quite a powerful young wizard, but not much with the book learnin'.

I only ask because Harry has made it clear he wants to be an auror, but the standards are very high. You need something like 7 OWLs and a boatload of NEWTs, including one in potions. In order to get into the NEWT level potions, Snape requires and Outstanding in the potions OWL.

Thus, if Harry doesn't get an Outstanding in his potions OWL, Snape doesn't let him in the NEWT class, and he can't be an auror. Now, it would be possible, but if that happens now, then Harry is suddenly out that option. I could see it happening in book 7, but not book 6.

Unless, of course, they give him special consideration to be an auror. But if that is the case, then all the more reason for the general wizarding world to be bitter against him.

Personally, I am guessing he has done amazingly well on his OWLs (except divination, of course). We don't hear about his academic exploits very much, outside of potions where we don't know how good he really is because Snape trashes everything he does. He's not Herm-own-ninny smart, but still very good, IMO.
 
pgwenthold said:
Harry's mom went to Hogwarts.

One of Harry's parents is a half-blood, we know. But Harry's parents were witches.

You're right. I meant to say Lily was Muggle-born or a mudblood.

Where does it say that James was a half-blood (had to be James since Lily is Muggle-born)?
 
Lisa Simpson said:
You're right. I meant to say Lily was Muggle-born or a mudblood.

Where does it say that James was a half-blood (had to be James since Lily is Muggle-born)?

I don't think it does. I said that one of Harry's parents was half-blood (but you corrected that to say that Lily is muggle-born). Thus, Harry's father isn't the half-blood prince.

OTOH, I still think Aunt Petunia is actually a witch.
 
pgwenthold said:
I wouldn't be surprised if Harry is the next Headmaster (even at his young age, yes)


Cor, I would be!

In order to get into the NEWT level potions, Snape requires and Outstanding in the potions OWL.

Thus, if Harry doesn't get an Outstanding in his potions OWL, Snape doesn't let him in the NEWT class, and he can't be an auror.


I think he's probably done very well at Potions. During the exam he was surprised to find how relaxed he was, compared to the classes when he's always being hassled by Snape. So while his potion wasn't quite as good as Hermione's ( a dead cert for an E, surely?), I'm sure he's scraped an Outstanding for it. Can't have the last two books with no Snape lessons ;)

pgwenthold said:
OTOH, I still think Aunt Petunia is actually a witch.

A Squib perhaps? Born to magical parents, but no magical powers herself. One reason why she's so resentful of Lily, possibly.
 
richardm said:

A Squib perhaps? Born to magical parents, but no magical powers herself. One reason why she's so resentful of Lily, possibly.

Interesting suggestion.

She obviously knows much more than she lets on. That's why I think there must be more to her.
 
Lothian said:
I think the book will start off with them all looking forward to a new term then as things progress, Harry finds himself emotionally alone, and then it will all come good in the end.

Well, if Dumbledore dies, there won't be the opportunity for him to explain everything to Harry lying in the hospital ward at the end. Thus, there is the potential that something might go awry from the tradition of the series.

But you did forget to mention how many pages it will take to get through this whole process.
 
pgwenthold said:
Well, if Dumbledore dies, there won't be the opportunity for him to explain everything to Harry lying in the hospital ward at the end. Thus, there is the potential that something might go awry from the tradition of the series.

But you did forget to mention how many pages it will take to get through this whole process.
Ooops sorry

I think the book will start off with them all looking forward to a new term then as things progress, Harry finds himself emotionally alone, and then after Dumbledore's ghost explains what happened when Harry blacked out it will all come good in the end.

Pages – I guess somewhere around 672 in America and 64 less in the UK
 
Lothian said:
Ooops sorry

I think the book will start off with them all looking forward to a new term then as things progress, Harry finds himself emotionally alone, and then after Dumbledore's ghost explains what happened when Harry blacked out it will all come good in the end

In 936 pages.
 
I think that JKR has stated that the Half-Blood Prince is neither Harry nor Voldemort.

I'm betting Hagrid.

Dumbledore won't die (my prediction).

He will be offered the position of Minister of Magic. He will take it for a while, but then go back to being Headmaster of Hogwarts when it's all over.



Who dies in this book? Some member of Dumbledore's Army, and some member of the Order of the Phoenix.

I'm gonna say Tonks and Luna.

Just a guess.
 
Silicon said:
I think that JKR has stated that the Half-Blood Prince is neither Harry nor Voldemort.

I'm betting Hagrid.



It's conceivable that Hagrid's mum was Giant royalty. I think that is where it would be, if he is the prince.




Who dies in this book? Some member of Dumbledore's Army, and some member of the Order of the Phoenix.

I'm gonna say Tonks and Luna.

Just a guess.

For some reason, Tonks reminds me of the Patchwork Girl from the WoO.

I'm not sure about Luna. I think there is a chance that she ends up Harry's wife in the end. She is a candidate, along with Ginny, Cho, or Herm-own-ninny (IMO, no). Personally, I think he ends up alone (see Luke Skywalker), but if I had to chose one, it would be Ginny (I would prefer Angelina).
 
Harry inherits #12 Grimwauld Place from Sirius.

Dumbledore dies, but not before making a brain-dump into his pensieve for Harry to find & use.

Hagrid is the half-blood prince.

Harry marries Ginny.

Filch marries Prof. McGonnagal.

The twins change their names to Ronnie & Reg and embark upon a life of crime.
 
Lisa Simpson said:
Don't you mean, Filch marries his cat? The books are set in Europe, after all.

:p
Nah. With the Prof he has it both ways...
 
At the risk of duplicating some speculations above, I'm making my entries with no foreknowledge of what anyone else has posted.

I had been considering the last couple days of what I would say if I was one of the "lucky" people to get the early copy of the book. I probably wouldn't have read it right away anyway.

I have not read any of the books, and my only exposure to HP is from the media hype and having seen the movies. I rented HP and the Prisoner of Azkaban just this last week, not knowing that a new book was due. As I watched it I found I'm just not that compelled by it. I love science fiction and some fantasy but not much.

That being said, this may all be negated in the 4th and 5th books anyway. I'd suggest the half-blood prince is Malfoy, since he's always snarking about Hermione's "mud-blood". What a shock for him to find out he is one as well.

Who will die? I heard speculation about Neville. I don't even know who Neville is... Someone on another page suggested Ron and I guess he's as good a candidate as any, and it clears the way for Harry and Hermione.

Maybe I'll get the box set of seven when all is said and done.
 
alfaniner said:
At the risk of duplicating some speculations above, I'm making my entries with no foreknowledge of what anyone else has posted.

I had been considering the last couple days of what I would say if I was one of the "lucky" people to get the early copy of the book. I probably wouldn't have read it right away anyway.

I have not read any of the books, and my only exposure to HP is from the media hype and having seen the movies. I rented HP and the Prisoner of Azkaban just this last week, not knowing that a new book was due. As I watched it I found I'm just not that compelled by it. I love science fiction and some fantasy but not much.

That being said, this may all be negated in the 4th and 5th books anyway. I'd suggest the half-blood prince is Malfoy, since he's always snarking about Hermione's "mud-blood". What a shock for him to find out he is one as well.


We don't know a lot about Malfoy's mother, I don't think, although she has been around here and there (she went to the World Cup, I believe).

Didn't one part of Malfoy's family show up on the tapestry at Black's mansion? I know there were a lot of Death Eaters on there.

I know you can't answer these questions, but someone might have more information.

But in terms of mud-blood, note that You-Know-Who is actually a half-blood, too. He's not proud of it (and killed his father), but apparently half-bloods are sufficient. Herm-own-ninny has both Muggle parents.




Who will die? I heard speculation about Neville. I don't even know who Neville is... Someone on another page suggested Ron and I guess he's as good a candidate as any, and it clears the way for Harry and Hermione.

Bah, who wants Harry and Hermione anyway? Ron and Hermione is a far better couple.

As for Neville: there is some indication that Neville Longbottom will become a much bigger player in this whole thing. Everyone assumes that the prophecy refers to Harry, and it make sense, but in the last book she dropped the seed that it could also be Neville. It's not likely, I doubt, but enough of a question to think about it. Therefore, she may want to muddy the waters even more, and we might learn more about Neville this time. Thus, it's not crazy to think that he is a candidate to die :)

OTOH, I notice that everyone is expecting someone really big to die, meaning someone who has been a major player from the beginning. Hagrid, Dumbledore, Ron, and even Neville are far more historical than the others who have died. Sirius had a pretty big role, but he only really played much of a character in two books (and besides, he was starting to act like the annoying bratty school kid again and so I wasn't so sad to see him go). Cedric was around from the beginning, but only in passing. Crouch was minor. Etc.

I still think it's Grawp.
 
I have the feeling that the answers to all these questions will be on the Net within 10 minutes of the first legitimate book sale.

Can you imagine the uproar in the bookstore when one of the early buyers flips through to the last few pages, calls up his (it would be a "his", no doubt) buddy, and shouts " It's Ron who dies at the end!!!" loud enough for everyone to hear.
 
alfaniner said:
I have the feeling that the answers to all these questions will be on the Net within 10 minutes of the first legitimate book sale.

Can you imagine the uproar in the bookstore when one of the early buyers flips through to the last few pages, calls up his (it would be a "his", no doubt) buddy, and shouts "It's Ron who dies at the end!!!" loud enough for everyone to hear.

Yes, because someone did exactly that in the bookstore when I picked up HP & The Order of the Phoenix. She was flipping through the book while we were waiting in line to pay and exclaimed loudly "Oh my Gawd. It's Sirius!" Of course, everyone started complaining loudly and then she got defensive. I have no idea if they strung her up from the second floor balcony, because I left shortly thereafter.
 

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