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Hardfire call-in debate between Richard Gage & Mark Roberts, June 18

The problem I have, and have said before, is that few people (not just "Twoofers") know what an actual debate is like. They see pundits on TV yelling back and forth, and think that is the way to do it.
 
theauthor said:
It might have been a slaughter in favour of roberts with weick to back him up, but i think in a fair debate the tour guide will lose out to the highly skilled architect.
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What a bizarre thing to say!

According to you, Gage is an expert while Roberts is a complete know-nothing.

Why would the know-nothing suddenly "slaughter" the expert if the moderator is named Weick? He would have no effect whatsoever on the quality of each person's argument.
 
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JamesB said:
ETA: Don't forget to ask about the disappearing mass, or the pyroclastic clouds, or the multi-ton chunkcs of molten iron, or the contradictory signs of a controlled demolition. Ok, I could go on forever...
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I'd like to ask him a couple myself.

I have not seen any 9/11 related material produced by yourself. Have you ever done any calculations or research of your own to confirm the demolition claims, or do you solely rely on the research of others. If not, what makes you an expert on this topic then?

You are hundreds of members behind you goal of 1000 A&E members by September 11th, 2008. Why do you think you're so far behind?

What's the difference between a static load and a dynamic load?

:D

Just a few. I'd have dozens more. I'm sure Mark has many many more.
 
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theauthor said:
Gage won't back out, and he will totally humiliate Roberts.
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Yet in all the time that you've been here, you've never been able to prove any of your theories correct, nor have you been able to prove that Roberts has gotten anything wrong.

I sincerely hope that Gage doesn't back out. But like Mark Roberts says, 9 "experts" have backed out while only 3 (Jim Fetzer and the Loose Change creators) have gone through with the debate. That's 1 in 4 odds. And all three who did go through with the debate did so early on. The others, from what I hear, have a tendency of dropping out after watching these debates.
 
CptColumbo said:
The problem I have, and have said before, is that few people (not just "Twoofers") know what an actual debate is like. They see pundits on TV yelling back and forth, and think that is the way to do it.
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Not to mention the presidential debates, which are now little more than joint press conferences.

eta: If Gage shows up, great. I'd like to see this debate actually happen. Though I certainly have my doubts that it will. Don't know why anyone in their right mind would be willing to bet $1000 on....anything really. Especially with the refusal to debate with Ron Weick there. A person who would do something that silly, would probably get into a fuss very easily and may back out for very small reasons.
 
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theauthor said:
I will accept someone like RMackey or Ron Weick or a moderator on this forum, or even Gravy.

You find someone like that willing to do that and we can both paypal the money to them tomorrow. Then when a winner of the bet is decided that person paypals 2000 dollars to the winner.
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P-doh, you still can't manage to spell my name correctly. After you pretended to be a rationalist last year, do you think anyone expects to pay up when you lose?
 
OK Pomeroo, come clean, the "replacement host" is actually going to be you wearing a wig and a fake moustache. Isn't it?

Given Gage's powers of observation, it just might work...
 
Brainache said:
OK Pomeroo, come clean, the "replacement host" is actually going to be you wearing a wig and a fake moustache. Isn't it?

Given Gage's powers of observation, it just might work...
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The replacement host will be John Clifton, a full-fledged twoofer who actually ran for Governor of NY in 2006 on the Libertarian line. It's hard to believe that a cowardly charlatan like Gage would dare to face Mark, but time will tell.
 
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pomeroo said:
The replacement host will be John Clifton, a full-fledged twoofer who actually ran for Governor of NY in 2006 on the Libertarian line. It's hard to believe that a cowardly charlatan like Gage would dare to face Mark, but time will tell.
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OK. No relation to this guy then?:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Clifton

ETA: Just to double check, I did a bit of investigoogling and found this site:

http://www.electclifton.org/

So if that is Ron in disguise, all I can say is you've got some pretty good make-up artists working with you...
 
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ref said:
I'd like to ask him a couple myself.
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Me too. Like were you told in person at the AIA conference to remove their logo from your web site or else, or did their lawyers send a cease and desist order?

Where is the video you said you were making at the AIA conference?
 
WildCat said:
Me too. Like were you told in person at the AIA conference to remove their logo from your web site or else, or did their lawyers send a cease and desist order?
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That logo really is gone. I hadn't noticed that before. Nice.
 
I'm still trying to say 'fact-free fraud' three times really fast. It's worse than peter piper!
 
You can see some John Clifton here.

Ronald Wieck, contributor to 'The American Thinker,' and Sam Sloan, Director of Media Relations, Manhattan Libertarian Party (http://www.ManhattanLP.org), discuss the truth about the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Center. John Clifton, Past Chair, Libertarian Party of New York (http://www.NY.LP.org), hosts. Originally aired June 26, 2006. Taped May 30, 2006.
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Sam Sloan seems a total fruit loop IMO. 'There's no evidence ... there's no evidence ... there's no evidence ... there's no evidence'.
 
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This should be tomorrow. Guess Gage has not backed out yet. If this actually takes place, I can't wait to see it :p
 
This should be good. Where can one catch it live online?
 
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