Gun owner kills intruder, faces prison

[ServiceSoon]

Katko v. Briney

Another example would be the defense of moveable property. If someone is driving away in your car, you may not kill them unless you life is in danger.

That case is in Iowa. I am not familiar with their laws. Generally booby traps are illegal, which is what that case is about. I belive that if somebody shot a person stealing their car in Texas it would be justified.

 

[Telaynay's G'son]

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I've always said that you guys are probably less NUTS than we are.

There is another distinction between ourselves and the "cousins" across the pond. Here in the states' we are citizens of the nation while in the UK a person is legally a subject of the Crown. At least that's the way former PM John Majors explained it to us at a conference held in Tulsa back in 1998.

Independent spirit?

Free Thinkers?

Probably has something to do with July 4th?

 

[Damien Evans]

There is another distinction between ourselves and the "cousins" across the pond. Here in the states' we are citizens of the nation while in the UK a person is legally a subject of the Crown. At least that's the way former PM John Majors explained it to us at a conference held in Tulsa back in 1998.

Independent spirit?

Free Thinkers?

Probably has something to do with July 4th?

Wrong, as has been pointed out here by many UK Citizens.

By that logic, Australians, New Zealanders and Canadians would also be subjects not citizens. It's simply not the case.

 

[RandFan]

Wrong, as has been pointed out here by many UK Citizens.

Does the queen know?

 

[Telaynay's G'son]

Wrong, as has been pointed out here by many UK Citizens.

By that logic, Australians, New Zealanders and Canadians would also be subjects not citizens. It's simply not the case.

The above post (by RandFan) notwithstanding, I was merely reiterating what the R.H. John Majors had told the gathering. He stated that among the "powers" retained by the Crown was the authority to declare Martial Law. As such, it would appear to "subjugate" the citizenry to Crown rule.

Again, RandFan's referenced source seems to indicate a somewhat mercurical definition of subject vs. citizen regarding residents of the UK with the observation being that possibly "citizens" of the UK are nonetheless "subjects" of the Crown.

Perhaps, that may have been a motivation in the mindset some of my ancestors held when leaving Wales (1609) to subsequently land in Massachusetts with the end result of some fine tea being tossed into a harbor?