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Psiload

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Not to be missed.

The diary of a madman. Actually, more like the video journal of a certifiable lunatic.

Here's the outline- Delusional and pathologically self-absorbed animal lover realizes his life's dream of becoming "one with the bears" after he travels through the digestive tract of one.

Equal parts tragedy and hilarity.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0427312/
 
Psiload said:
Not to be missed.

The diary of a madman. Actually, more like the video journal of a certifiable lunatic.

Here's the outline- Delusional and pathologically self-absorbed animal lover realizes his life's dream of becoming "one with the bears" after he travels through the digestive tract of one.

Equal parts tragedy and hilarity.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0427312/
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Yeah, it's a fascinating story. And even more tragic that his girlfriend also ended up being killed because of his delusions.
 
Blackwell said:
Yeah, it's a fascinating story. And even more tragic that his girlfriend also ended up being killed because of his delusions.
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I think you need to further investigate this generalization.
She chose to be there, under his rules, and she was aware of the volitility of bears, from what I know about the situation.
She was no sidewalk-raised do-gooder. She was described as a "knowlegable outdoorswoman".
In my kneck of the woods, that means you are aware of the risks that wild critters and isolation present. But then, I'm from New Mexico, Colorado, and Texas...
 
rwguinn said:
I think you need to further investigate this generalization.
She chose to be there, under his rules, and she was aware of the volitility of bears, from what I know about the situation.
She was no sidewalk-raised do-gooder. She was described as a "knowlegable outdoorswoman".
In my kneck of the woods, that means you are aware of the risks that wild critters and isolation present. But then, I'm from New Mexico, Colorado, and Texas...
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Do you think she would have been there (in that situation, or a similar one) if it weren't for Treadwell? I can't imagine what would make a "knowlegable outdoorswoman" who was aware of the volatility of bears decide that camping among them would be a good idea. From what I've read of Treadwell, he was a charismatic and convincing character who had a decade-long run of good luck in dealing with grizzlies; perhaps she was convinced that luck would continue.
 
Blackwell said:
Do you think she would have been there (in that situation, or a similar one) if it weren't for Treadwell? I can't imagine what would make a "knowlegable outdoorswoman" who was aware of the volatility of bears decide that camping among them would be a good idea. From what I've read of Treadwell, he was a charismatic and convincing character who had a decade-long run of good luck in dealing with grizzlies; perhaps she was convinced that luck would continue.
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Well, if so, see Huntsman's post above.
Otherwise, I cannot consider him to blame for her decision...Sorry
 
It's worth it just for the scene where he cusses at the fox in a cutesey voice for stealing his hat.
 
Taarkin said:
It's worth it just for the scene where he cusses at the fox in a cutesey voice for stealing his hat.
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And if that doesn't get you, the scene where he breaks into tears of joy after dipping his finger in bear poop certainly will.:covereyes
 
Ironically he was killed by the bear that he repeatedly called 'grumpy' and 'grouchy' the Bear got tired of the on camera insults.
 
I loved how his delusions of grandeur led him to the belief that he was single-handedly protecting the bears in Katmai National Park from poachers.

Katmai National Park covers an area of over 4 million acres. Imagine a person donning a Superman cape, watching out for wrongdoers from their front porch, and then claiming sole responsibility for the low crime rates in their entire home state, providence, etc...

That should give you a good idea of just how deeply Treadwell had fallen into his "Protector of the Bears" delusion. One single guy, who was self-admittedly "hiding" in the park (hiding from The National Park Service, because he was illegaly camping) was under the impression that his presence, and his presence alone, was preventing the poaching of a two-thousand-strong population of bears spread out over a 4 million acre plot of land. :rolleyes:

The bear that killed Treadwell and his "girlfriend", and another bear that was found in the area, had to be put down by National Park Service officials after the attacks were discovered.

So that brings the score to....

Bear deaths attributable to the actions of Timothy Treadwell- 2

Bear deaths attributable to the actions of Psiload- 0

All hail Psiload! Protector of the Bears Extraordinnaire!

***edited to correct error regarding size of Ketami National Park*** No animals were harmed during the editing of this post... because we love them... yes we do... we love Mr. Grumpy and Mrs. Fluffypants... we love them so much... yes we do
 
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Does anyone have a link to the recording of the guy's death? Apparently the camcorder was turned on (with lens cap on), and recorded the sounds of the entire incident.
 
Recording of the Death

Cleon said:
Does anyone have a link to the recording of the guy's death? Apparently the camcorder was turned on (with lens cap on), and recorded the sounds of the entire incident.
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According to the movie, the only recording is in the possession of Timothy Treadwell's former partner, who has not listened to it. I would be very surprised it it became available on the internet.

It is a great movie. Werner Herzog is a genius, and I don't think he was too harsh with his subject.

- Rachel
 
Other Werner Herzog "documentary"

Has anyone seen "Incident at Loch Ness"? It is a Werner Herzog "mockumentory". Pretty funny:)
 
Cleon said:
Does anyone have a link to the recording of the guy's death? Apparently the camcorder was turned on (with lens cap on), and recorded the sounds of the entire incident.
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I don't think it was ever released.

I watched it last night, all I can say is WOW! As Dan Quayle once said, "What a waste it is to lose one's mind. Or not to have a mind is being very wasteful. How true that is."

There was a thread here after he was eaten, don't know if it survived or not.
 
I saw parts of that doccumentory. I guess he wasted his life since his death caused people to kill another bear. Also I thought how horrible that he got his girlfriend eaten by a bear too.
 
He was harming the bears by making then a little bit more used to being near humans.

As one person on the show said, he thought they were people in bear suits.

You could see how the reality of the absolute cruelty of nature would crack his view of the world. He could barely deal with the deaths of the animals.
 
Psiload said:
Not to be missed.

The diary of a madman. Actually, more like the video journal of a certifiable lunatic.

Here's the outline- Delusional and pathologically self-absorbed animal lover realizes his life's dream of becoming "one with the bears" after he travels through the digestive tract of one.

Equal parts tragedy and hilarity.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0427312/
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Very sad that he dragged down his girl friend with him, sure appears to be untreated bipolar disorder.

Very disturbing, reminds me of crisis work and how delicate the human condition is.

The really telling stuff starts when he gets upset over the fox steals his hat, the crescendo is reached when he is ranting about the drought and then the coda when he thinks he is going to spend the winter without supplies.
 
rwguinn said:
I think you need to further investigate this generalization.
She chose to be there, under his rules, and she was aware of the volitility of bears, from what I know about the situation.
She was no sidewalk-raised do-gooder. She was described as a "knowlegable outdoorswoman".
In my kneck of the woods, that means you are aware of the risks that wild critters and isolation present. But then, I'm from New Mexico, Colorado, and Texas...
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Family and friends often try to protect thier mentaly ill family emebers, she had talked him into leaving before they bacame bear chow. That is what scares me all the time as a crisis worker, people get used to thier friends being crazy and they try to save them or help them. Then they end up tolerating dangerous situations without even realizing it.

She was supposedly very afraid of the bears.
 
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