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Cont: Greta Thunberg - brave campaigner or deeply disturbed - part 3

Matthew Best said:
If she'd just got off the train, everything would be fine.

Yeah, right.
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Counterpoint: If she'd not posted on social media that she was "on strike" when she was really just traveling by train, everything would be fine. Or if dann hadn't bothered to post it here. Nothing compelled her to say she was doing the school strike for climate thing - which is what her social media post referenced - when she's not even in school at the moment.

Did she actually show up to a strike action anywhere that day? No. Quite the opposite. If she'd just not said anything, it would have been fine.

I mean, in the grand scheme of things, it's fine anyway. But I do think it's mildy snipe-worthy. So here we are. Did dann mean to highlight the inanity of her "strike"? I don't know. But that's what happened. Is it okay with you if I point out how inane it is?
 
I didn't just post a link to Thunberg's tweet, I included it as part of WicMar's retweet, and she tweeted it mainly because of the message Thunberg was sending to her Swedish compatriots and other covidiots. And the message was understood - not just by her enemies, but also by the enemies of her enemies.

In Sweden, you just don't mask up on public transport because the virus stopped existing on Sep 29, 2021: "Det är borta. It's gone."

Thunberg knows that it isn't. And her tweet was her way of showing that she knows. That she also knows about anthropogenic global warming and the lies of the fossil fuel industry is probably what annoys (some) foreigners the most, but the signal she sends to her compatriots, particularly to people her own age but also to Swedish authorities, when she is on a train and doesn't even remove her face mask to take a selfie can't be underestimated.
 
dann said:
When your raison d'être is sniping, the whole world looks snipe-worthy.
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Why would sniping and being skeptical be mutually exclusive? Why, I could be " Skeptical Greg the Cynical Snipe ".

It's not like the majority of the content in these forums has anything to with skepticism, or that skepticism about sacredly held opinions is encouraged here.
 
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Why would other "school strikes " be necessary for Greta to have her own strike from the train?
Aside from the fact that she's not in school, and that the Friday school strikes are not really strikes..
 
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Skeptical Greg said:
I really can't find anything about an organized strike since March3.

Was this ever posted?
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http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=14092880#post14092880

Greta Thunberg says she's graduating from her school strikes over climate change

So the whole train thing appears even more inane.. Maybe she forgot she wasn't striking anymore.
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Even though she has finished high school, she may continue as an organizer, but I don't know if that is actually the case.
 
Now I'm wondering how much organization a School Strike for Climate event actually needs. To a first approximation, it's just a bunch of kids all cutting class on Friday, "for climate".

Beyond that? Maybe it's different in Denmark, but in the US highschoolers are generally encouraged to try their hand at organizing their own events, and many of them do. Even official school events are often given over to the students to organize, with supervision and support from the staff. Does Greta really need to be holding highschooler's hands, helping them to make banners and march through a public place? At best she could personally organize a single school or school district at a time. Which seems almost not worth the effort, for a global movement with kids around the world organizing themselves just fine.

And of course kids younger than high school age should be getting organized by their parents, not by Greta.
 
I have to wonder if you would be so concerned about Greta's role if you fully agreed with the cause.
 
gnome said:
I have to wonder if you would be so concerned about Greta's role if you fully agreed with the cause.
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Bro, nobody* agrees with her cause. That's like my main thesis and stuff.

I'm concerned about the absurd and profoundly hypocritical cargo cult that has grown up around Greta the personality, while de facto dismissing her cause.

Concerned to the point of posting in this thread, anyway. I'd call it mildly curious, but you do you. Since you're posting in this thread too, you can tell me how concerned you are, and I can see if that's about as concerned as I am.

But you know what? If you really did agree with her cause, you should be very concerned with her lack of success at advancing it.
 
I agree in the general sense that we need to motivate meaningful steps to control carbon emissions. Do I agree with her most radical suggestions? Not really.

But as far as her methods of activism, I don't see anything worth so much focus on her in particular. She had a few minutes of fame and is using that for her purpose. Making appearances, speaking out, raising awareness, organizing demonstrations. Like any other activist with a bit of influence might do. I'm sure there are other activists with more radical ideas, and those with more moderate ideas, all with varying degrees of effectiveness. What I'm not understanding is why the special concern.
 
gnome said:
I agree in the general sense that we need to motivate meaningful steps to control carbon emissions. Do I agree with her most radical suggestions? Not really.

But as far as her methods of activism, I don't see anything worth so much focus on her in particular. She had a few minutes of fame and is using that for her purpose. Making appearances, speaking out, raising awareness, organizing demonstrations. Like any other activist with a bit of influence might do. I'm sure there are other activists with more radical ideas, and those with more moderate ideas, all with varying degrees of effectiveness. What I'm not understanding is why the special concern.
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The focus on her in this thread is because it's a thread about her. A thread that languishes for months until someone notes she has popped up in the news somewhere, and the little snipe-fest ensues.

The lack of focus on her from any entity that could make a difference is more telling than any attention she gets here.
 
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theprestige said:
Bro, nobody* agrees with her cause. That's like my main thesis and stuff.

I'm concerned about the absurd and profoundly hypocritical cargo cult that has grown up around Greta the personality, while de facto dismissing her cause.

Concerned to the point of posting in this thread, anyway. I'd call it mildly curious, but you do you. Since you're posting in this thread too, you can tell me how concerned you are, and I can see if that's about as concerned as I am.

But you know what? If you really did agree with her cause, you should be very concerned with her lack of success at advancing it.
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I know when I think of absurd and profoundly hypocritical cargo cults to be concerned about, my mind immediately goes to Greta Thunberg.

This is absolutely something that a serious person would say.
 
I guess it's a chicken and egg thing. Is attention focused on her because there's a thread? Or is there an extended thread because attention is focused on her?
 
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