Gravysites: Where 9/11 Conspiracies are Laid to Rest

[Jono]

Too bad I just found these forums recently - this would have been a fun thread to be a part of!

Well with truthers et al, this kind of history tends to repeat itself ad nauseum. So with that being said, I'm sure you'll get plenty of chances.

 

[HannibalGroup]

Is there a list of investigations done by universities (like the ones Purdue and MIT did), scientists and engineers worldwide on this forum?

 

[chrismohr]

Wow Mr Gravy this is so over the top good. I can't believe all the material you have compiled.

I think you know about my Richard Gage Rebuttal videos just coming out on YouTube, but in case you don't have it on your list, here they are:

part 0 introduction http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC3JgWkNNIQ
part 1 how collapses initiated http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-WQdmpdM_g
part 2 Richard's ten reasons for natural collapse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If5C8YiXHhE
part 3 history of fire collapses http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsjfSG69Pik
part 4 symmetrical/freefall http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsjfSG69Pik
part 5 lateral ejection of steel and squibs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2538YN1l1nA
part 6 pulverized concrete and steel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD0zg1OwBSo
part 7 eyewitness accounts of explosions http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aB-Apjqef8
part 8 molten steel and iron in debris http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7OxQXuMPs4&feature=related
part 9 iron microspheres http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev48qEO9SyU
part 10 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OpzRcYqlKQ
part 11a thermitics in the dust http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYja1f-Tefc
part 11b thermitics in the dust continued http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb8Q1UYdW4I&feature=related
part 12 conclusion twin towers portion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJhy2gW0jFA&feature=related
part 13 Building 7 NIST introduction http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv06LjVGC6Q&feature=related
part 14 Size of Building 7 fires http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJUDQVqbMto
part 15 Path of Leasrt Resistance Building 7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvZ_3JVjHeo
part 16 Eyewitness Accounts re Building 7; Foreknowledge of Destruction http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajIr2G4wFn4
part 17 Size of Conspiracy, How Many People Would it Take? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iya9P5TRd-0
part 18 Building 7 freefall collapse http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkbDyAJuirg
part 19 A New Investigation? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LnYfB4OaDM
part 20 Concluding Remarks: Waking Up from what Richard Gage calls "the nightmare of 9/11;" a heartflet appeal http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8l7j6h9elQ

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#18 is about to be updated so that link may change in a few days.

Chris Mohr

 

[DaveThomasNMSR]

Gage Bane: July/August Skeptical Inquirer on 9/11 Truth

My article in the July/August 2011 issue of Skeptical Inquirer, "The 9/11 Truth Movement:The Top Conspiracy Theory, a Decade Later", which was discussed at length in this thread, is finally on-line, here.

When Ted Goertzel wrote about 9/11 Truth in the Jan./Feb. 2011 Skeptical Inquirer, Richard Gage's Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truthiness were quick to respond with a post titled "Skeptical Inquirer Attacks 9/11 Truth Movement, Avoids Vast Body of Scientific Evidence."

When the May/June 2011 issue of Skeptical Inquirer came out (April 8, 2011), it contained two letters-to-the-editor by AE911Truth supporters. AE911 staff proudly posted the letters on May 4th, 2011, just a few weeks after the issue appeared on news-stands.

Curiously, Gage and AE911 Truth have failed to even mention the special July/August 2011 edition of Skeptical Inquirer, with three articles on 9/11 truth conspiracies. Months have passed, and it is now evident no "response" will be forthcoming.

What was so compelling in this issue that Gage resisted his usual impulse to blast Skeptical Inquirer for not taking 9/11 truthiness seriously?

Try a taste of Gage Bane^TM. Check it out here!

 

[mudlark]

Hey Dabljuh, do you really want to pi$$ with Mark Roberts (Gravy)? Do you really want to challenge his claims and say he's "wrong"?

I'll be demonstrating how he's way off the mark (no pun intended) with his Pentagon witness list (below) very shortly.

https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/911pentagonflight77evidencesummary

Stay tuned.

 

[carlitos]

I'll be demonstrating how he's way off the mark (no pun intended) with his Pentagon witness list (below) very shortly.

https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/911pentagonflight77evidencesummary

Stay tuned.

I think you are about 5 years too late for this.

 

[mudlark]

I think you are about 5 years too late for this.

Yeah, Gravy's witness links are so outdated and exaggerated.

But it was a lot of work trying to clean his mess up. Well, his "interpretation" of it. And that of "Bart" and "Someguyyoudontknow" and "They Saw".

I don't know how he totted up the numbers

 

[beachnut]

Yeah, Gravy's witness links are so outdated and exaggerated.

But it was a lot of work trying to clean his mess up. Well, his "interpretation" of it. And that of "Bart" and "Someguyyoudontknow" and "They Saw".

I don't know how he totted up the numbers

Outdated for an event 11 years ago. 911 logic? Did they change their testimony? RADAR data confirms the witnesses, which pre-debunks your claim of nonsense to come. FDR, does too. What new woo do you bring to the failed 911 truth movement of lies and fantasy?

 

[EventHorizon]

Stay tuned.

In the entire history of the internet, has this phrase ever been followed up with actual useful information? I'm thinking no.

 

[mudlark]

Outdated for an event 11 years ago. 911 logic? Did they change their testimony? RADAR data confirms the witnesses, which pre-debunks your claim of nonsense to come. FDR, does too. What new woo do you bring to the failed 911 truth movement of lies and fantasy?

"Outdated" as in the much quoted figure of "104 witnesss to an impact" is pure guff. And that many witnesses have been contacted since and the labels that have been placed on them through online media snippets (which is a flawed approach to assessing witness testimony) usually contradict what they actually described.

The witnesses overwhelmingly contradict what the alleged RADES and FDR data showed.

 

[beachnut]

"Outdated" as in the much quoted figure of "104 witnesss to an impact" is pure guff. And that many witnesses have been contacted since and the labels that have been placed on them through online media snippets (which is a flawed approach to assessing witness testimony) usually contradict what they actually described.

The witnesses overwhelmingly contradict what the alleged RADES and FDR data showed.

Witnesses match the RADAR, multiple RADAR sites, and the FDR. Some describe the erratic bank angle seen in the FDR. Wow, you are spreading lies about 911. Why? I like the ones who describe the engine noise, as the throttles are moved to the fire-wall.

Nonsense is what you have, backed up with pure guff.

FDR, RADAR and DNA prove the witnesses who said 77 impacted the Pentagon, are all correct. 100 percent right. Leaves you with woo.

Did Gravy make you look bad? Are you spreading lies to discredit Gravy?

 

[cjnewson88]

Mark know 9/11 witness testimonies better than anyone else on this planet. Mudlark's cherry picking is proof he(Mudlark) clearly does not.

For you Mudlark;

http://therightbloggerbastard.blogspot.co.nz/2012/09/american-airlines-77-hit-pentagon.html

Everything you need to show you Flight 77 hit the Pentagon

 

[geggy]

Evidence used to make a case for war in Afghanistan which took place only one month after the attacks were circumstinal at best. Most of the points talked about bin Ladens relationships with Taliban and al Qaeda, al Qaeda's philosophy and their past attacks. None of the evidence presented by Tony Blair showed they're were directedly involved.

https://web.archive.org/web/20060908232129/http://www.number-10.gov.uk/output/page3682.asp

 

[Robin]

Wrong topic.

 

[cjnewson88]

Gravy sites seem to not be working on those links anymore.

Any backup?

 

[Fonebone]

For you cjnewson...

Mark know 9/11 witness testimonies better than anyone else on this planet. Mudlark's cherry picking is proof he(Mudlark) clearly does not.

For you Mudlark;

http://therightbloggerbastard.blogspot.co.nz/2012/09/american-airlines-77-hit-pentagon.html

Everything you need to show you Flight 77 hit the Pentagon

For you cjnewson88...
You are absolutely correct cj, your link provides "everything you need to show flight 77 hit the pentagon"
http://therightbloggerbastard.blogspot.co.nz/2012/09/american-airlines-77-hit-pentagon.html
..

Compare the evidence contained in your link to this courageous eyewitness
first-hand account ...
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ghy2MpPARQny/

 

[bknight]

For you cjnewson88...
You are absolutely correct cj, your link provides "everything you need to show flight 77 hit the pentagon"
http://therightbloggerbastard.blogspot.co.nz/2012/09/american-airlines-77-hit-pentagon.html

Yes I have seen most if not all of this in the past.

..

Compare the evidence contained in your link to this courageous eyewitness
first-hand account ...
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ghy2MpPARQny/

First items, nowhere does this individual indicate where she was inside the Pentagon. There were many many individuals inside the Pentagon that day that were not sprayed with jet fuel, but they were not anywhere near the impact site. Her saying that she and others weren't sprayed with jet fuel does not in anyway disprove a plane crashing into the building.
Thank you for playing.

 

[beachnut]

debunked long ago, and bitchute - A Hotbed of Hate

For you cjnewson88...
...
Compare the evidence contained in your link to this courageous eyewitness
first-hand account ...
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ghy2MpPARQny/

Someone inside the Pentagon is not a witness to 77 hitting, not a witness for 77 not hitting.

Failed, big time = 9/11 truth (a movement based on delusions)

Bitchure, is a poor source a hotbed of hate. Do you hang out at bitchute, where white supremacist spread lies and propaganda?

Why can't you figure out 9/11? bitchute will not help you figure out 9/11, but will help mislead you since you believe stuff like this which offers no evidence for your fuzzy conclusion... did you make a conclusion, or just wanted to link to a white supremacist hideout where lies are allowed and hate is rampant?

sad - the sun for you has set forever

 

[bknight]

Someone inside the Pentagon is not a witness to 77 hitting, not a witness for 77 not hitting.

Failed, big time = 9/11 truth (a movement based on delusions)

Bitchure, is a poor source a hotbed of hate. Do you hang out at bitchute, where white supremacist spread lies and propaganda?

Why can't you figure out 9/11? bitchute will not help you figure out 9/11, but will help mislead you since you believe stuff like this which offers no evidence for your fuzzy conclusion... did you make a conclusion, or just wanted to link to a white supremacist hideout where lies are allowed and hate is rampant?

sad - the sun for you has set forever

I didn't know that about bitchute but searched.

BitChute is an alt-tech video hosting service launched by Ray Vahey in January 2017. It describes itself as offering freedom of speech, while the service is known for hosting far-right individuals, conspiracy theorists, and hate speech.

Thanks.

 

[Fonebone]

Someone inside the Pentagon is not a witness to 77 hitting, not a witness for 77 not hitting.

Here is an eyewitness account from OUTSIDE of the Pentagon.
https://transcripts.cnn.com/show/bn/date/2001-09-11/segment/35

[excerpt]
MCINTYRE: You know, it might have appeared that way, but from my close-up inspection, there's no evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon. The only site is the actual site of the building that's crashed in, and as I said, the only pieces left that you can see are small enough that you can pick up in your hand. There are no large tail sections, wing sections, fuselage, nothing like that anywhere around, which would indicate that the entire plane crashed into the side of the Pentagon and then caused the side to collapse.[/excerpt]

(childish verbiage snipped)

Beachnut <

sad - the sun for you has set forever

9-11 truth seekers have learned to work in the dark. Bic?