Gravy's new document: "half-baked theory"

[Loss Leader]

I think it's that . . .

19 kamikazee muslims hijacked 4 commercial airliners and flew 1 each into WTC1, WTC2, the Pentagon and Shanksville, ...

Who cares what it says? It's the closest Truthseeker1234 has ever come to being right! I feel like getting him a cake.

 

[Hellbound]

It's so full of blatant falsehoods and strawmen I don't know how it can support it's own weight.

ETA: But still closer to reality than anything "Truth"seeker has come up with up to this point.

Of course, oddly enough, such a statement by him makes it obvious he either has not read the NIST report and other accounts of what really happened, or has failed to understand them.

I'm giving 50/50 oddds to start.

 

[Dog Town]

Man...he is sooooe close! Maybe not Gravy persay, but...

 

[LashL]

Interesting.

Now, if only BS1234 could articulate his own theory so succinctly. Oddly enough, he refuses to do so.

How about it, "truth"seeker? Please articulate your theory in a similarly succinct fashion.

 

[Brainache]

I notice he still refuses to see the large chunks of concrete in the enormous pile of debris.

He doesn't see the remains of the landing gear in the inner ring at the Pentagon.

Does it seem that Truthseeker is seeking the truth? Looks to me like he has decided already what is true and only sees what he wants.*







*I know it has been said before, but what the hell? Once more can't hurt.

 

[LashL]

I notice he still refuses to see the large chunks of concrete in the enormous pile of debris.

He doesn't see the remains of the landing gear in the inner ring at the Pentagon.

Does it seem that Truthseeker is seeking the truth? Looks to me like he has decided already what is true and only sees what he wants.*







*I know it has been said before, but what the hell? Once more can't hurt.

Like all "troofers", he sees only what he wants to see and ignores the facts and evidence.

 

[Foolmewunz]

I think it's that . . .

19 kamikazee muslims hijacked 4 commercial airliners and flew 1 each into WTC1, WTC2, the Pentagon and Shanksville, causing massive damage to the perimeter and core columns of the twin towers, stripping off the fireproofing and igniting raging fires and sending an unignited stream of jet fuel down an elevator shaft all the way to the basement, where it jumped to another elevator shaft, reversed direction and came up to the lobby, ignited and blew out the windows, then the aforementioned raging fires heated up the floor trusses to the point where they sagged and pulled inwards on the heated core and perimeter columns, eventually breaking them which caused the mass of the tower above to come crashing down on the floor below, pulverizing almost all of the non-metallic material into fine powder and shredding all 287 steel columns into roughly 30 foot lengths and ejecting said powder and shredded steel hundreds of feet laterally in all directions, then continuing downwards and doing the same thing to the next floor, and the next (while appearing to jump in 4 or 5 floor increments), occasionaly advancing a floor assembly 20 stories ahead of the collapse wave in a "piston fashion" which simulatneouly crushed drywall into dust, focused this dust into a tight jet pattern and expelled it out exactly one window on each of two faces of the building, continuing to add mass and speed above the collapse front while this accumulating mass became invisible and showed no sign of itself, repeating the "jet plume" trick several more times, proceeding all the way to the ground, where the invisible accumulated pulverizing slegehammer of destruction finally disappeared altogether and left behing a chimney of smoke with a distinct mushroom top, and billowing clouds of dust which looked remarkably like the pyroclastic flows of a volcano (but which weren't), leaving behind a very small pile of rubble, (considering the size of the towers) which somehow imitated a blast furnace inside and melted steel down for months afterward, meanwhile another jet crashed into the Pentagon leaving almost no sign of itself and no sign of its passengers yet somehow left DNA samples, and some round part of the aircraft travelled all the way through the building and stayed perfectly intact enough to punch a very round exit hole through reinforced concrete but then disappeared, meanwhile the forth jet crashed because brave passengers tried to wrestle control away from the hijackers and crashed the plane straight down into a field where it disintegrated and left no sign of itself whatsoever.

Gravy, I think that's what you're working with.

Now isn't this amazing? For over a month, now, we've been trying to get WaggaWagga1234 to enumerate his position in, and he's failed to do so, notwithstanding the 5,342 requests (I think Claus even chimed in with "Evidence?" once or twice), he has failed to do so.

The above is the TS1234 wet dream! This is the kind of statement he wants someone to make so he can debate, debate debate!

Tell ya what Troofy, why don't you write us another run-on sentence with your theory. We've all told you ours often enough. Give it ten minutes. Write the numbers one through 20 on the left side of you Big Boy Coloring Tablet, and then fill in what it is you actually believe or "observed", if you prefer. Feel free to cite Gordon Ross as often as you like.

 

[TruthSeeker1234]

I think it's that . . .

19 kamikazee muslims hijacked 4 commercial airliners and flew 1 each into WTC1, WTC2, the Pentagon and Shanksville, causing massive damage to the perimeter and core columns of the twin towers, stripping off the fireproofing and igniting raging fires and sending an unignited stream of jet fuel down an elevator shaft all the way to the basement, where it jumped to another elevator shaft, reversed direction and came up to the lobby, ignited and blew out the windows, then the aforementioned raging fires heated up the floor trusses to the point where they sagged and pulled inwards on the heated core and perimeter columns, eventually breaking them which caused the mass of the tower above to come crashing down on the floor below, pulverizing almost all of the non-metallic material into fine powder and shredding all 287 steel columns into roughly 30 foot lengths and ejecting said powder and shredded steel hundreds of feet laterally in all directions, then continuing downwards and doing the same thing to the next floor, and the next (while appearing to jump in 4 or 5 floor increments), occasionaly advancing a floor assembly 20 stories ahead of the collapse wave in a "piston fashion" which simulatneouly crushed drywall into dust, focused this dust into a tight jet pattern and expelled it out exactly one window on each of two faces of the building, continuing to add mass and speed above the collapse front while this accumulating mass became invisible and showed no sign of itself, repeating the "jet plume" trick several more times, proceeding all the way to the ground, where the invisible accumulated pulverizing slegehammer of destruction finally disappeared altogether and left behind a chimney of smoke with a distinct mushroom top, and billowing clouds of dust which looked remarkably like the pyroclastic flows of a volcano (but which weren't), leaving behind a very small pile of rubble, (considering the size of the towers) which somehow imitated a blast furnace inside and melted steel down for months afterward, meanwhile another jet crashed into the Pentagon leaving almost no sign of itself and no sign of its passengers yet somehow left DNA samples, and some round part of the aircraft travelled all the way through the building and stayed perfectly intact enough to punch a very round exit hole through reinforced concrete but then disappeared, meanwhile the forth jet crashed because brave passengers tried to wrestle control away from the hijackers and crashed the plane straight down into a field where it disintegrated and left no sign of itself whatsoever.

Gravy, I think that's what you're working with.

Well, is this statement correct or not? Let's fix it and make it the perfect officlal story summary. We can break it up and number it if you want.

 

[Abbyas]

billowing clouds of dust which looked remarkably like the pyroclastic flows of a volcano

Good grief.

Well, is this statement correct or not? Let's fix it and make it the perfect officlal story summary. We can break it up and number it if you want.

You are drunk right now, aren't you.

 

[Foolmewunz]

Well, is this statement correct or not? Let's fix it and make it the perfect officlal story summary. We can break it up and number it if you want.

You can break it up and number it (get help on the latter), and then tape it back together and fold it eight ways and put it where the sun don't shine, should you so desire (and I mean that in the nicest way possible).

We don't have an official theory to offer you. We accept great huge chunks of the 9/11 Commission, whole bunches of Greening, many many portions of the NIST, and a whole lot of other things, no doubt. But we do not have a multi-bulleted JREF Sanctioned Official Non-Conspiracy Theory for you to trot back to the lodge brothers.

 

[Gravy]

I think it's that . . .

19 kamikazee muslims hijacked 4 commercial airliners and flew 1 each into WTC1, WTC2, the Pentagon and Shanksville, causing massive damage to the perimeter and core columns of the twin towers, stripping off the fireproofing and igniting raging fires and sending an unignited stream of jet fuel down an elevator shaft all the way to the basement, where it jumped to another elevator shaft, reversed direction and came up to the lobby, ignited and blew out the windows, then the aforementioned raging fires heated up the floor trusses to the point where they sagged and pulled inwards on the heated core and perimeter columns, eventually breaking them which caused the mass of the tower above to come crashing down on the floor below, pulverizing almost all of the non-metallic material into fine powder and shredding all 287 steel columns into roughly 30 foot lengths and ejecting said powder and shredded steel hundreds of feet laterally in all directions, then continuing downwards and doing the same thing to the next floor, and the next (while appearing to jump in 4 or 5 floor increments), occasionaly advancing a floor assembly 20 stories ahead of the collapse wave in a "piston fashion" which simulatneouly crushed drywall into dust, focused this dust into a tight jet pattern and expelled it out exactly one window on each of two faces of the building, continuing to add mass and speed above the collapse front while this accumulating mass became invisible and showed no sign of itself, repeating the "jet plume" trick several more times, proceeding all the way to the ground, where the invisible accumulated pulverizing slegehammer of destruction finally disappeared altogether and left behing a chimney of smoke with a distinct mushroom top, and billowing clouds of dust which looked remarkably like the pyroclastic flows of a volcano (but which weren't), leaving behind a very small pile of rubble, (considering the size of the towers) which somehow imitated a blast furnace inside and melted steel down for months afterward, meanwhile another jet crashed into the Pentagon leaving almost no sign of itself and no sign of its passengers yet somehow left DNA samples, and some round part of the aircraft travelled all the way through the building and stayed perfectly intact enough to punch a very round exit hole through reinforced concrete but then disappeared, meanwhile the forth jet crashed because brave passengers tried to wrestle control away from the hijackers and crashed the plane straight down into a field where it disintegrated and left no sign of itself whatsoever.

Gravy, I think that's what you're working with.

I was referring to my paper on WTC 7. Do you have a sentence on that?

 

[Loss Leader]

Well, is this statement correct or not? Let's fix it and make it the perfect officlal story summary. We can break it up and number it if you want.

Why don't you spend that time writing down what your version would be? After hundreds and hundreds of posts, why don't you finally tell us what you claim happened? Then we can see if your claim is even possible in a universe where planets revolve around the sun and frozen water is less dense than liquid.

 

[twinstead]

I nominate troothydude1234's sentence to be posted in the Wikipedia entry for 'strawman' as a quintessential example of one.

 

[DavidJames]

IGravy, I think that's what you're working with.

Actually what Gravy and others have to work with relative to WTC 1 & 2 is this: http://wtc.nist.gov/reports_october05.htm

I know you don't like it cause it has a lot of big words and analysis and calculations from people who know how to make them and know what they mean. Something your side has no capability of understanding much less refuting. So rather then refute it, you raise creationist style "God of the Gaps" arguments.

Stop trying to reduce a very complex event into what you see in a video. You need to treat this event with the respect and diligence it requires. Are you able to move beyond the physics you learned in cartoons and forensics you learned on CSI? If not, then you will continue to be on the butt end of jokes.

 

[TruthSeeker1234]

I notice you are all running away from the official story as fast as you can. It looks pretty ridiculous, no doubt.

 

[Scientologist]

It's so big I can't even read it.

That's what she said.

 

[Scientologist]

I notice you are all running away from the official story as fast as you can. It looks pretty ridiculous, no doubt.

Dude, seriously. Get a girlfriend. Have S E X. Stop parading around the internet anonymously as if you are some sort of 9/11 Truth Super Hero Celebrity.

Its depressing.

 

[bob_kark]

I notice you are all running away from the official story as fast as you can. It looks pretty ridiculous, no doubt.

Wait, you mean this official story?:

I think it's that . . .

19 kamikazee muslims hijacked 4 commercial airliners and flew 1 each into WTC1, WTC2, the Pentagon and Shanksville, causing massive damage to the perimeter and core columns of the twin towers, stripping off the fireproofing and igniting raging fires and sending an unignited stream of jet fuel down an elevator shaft all the way to the basement, where it jumped to another elevator shaft, reversed direction and came up to the lobby, ignited and blew out the windows, then the aforementioned raging fires heated up the floor trusses to the point where they sagged and pulled inwards on the heated core and perimeter columns, eventually breaking them which caused the mass of the tower above to come crashing down on the floor below, pulverizing almost all of the non-metallic material into fine powder and shredding all 287 steel columns into roughly 30 foot lengths and ejecting said powder and shredded steel hundreds of feet laterally in all directions, then continuing downwards and doing the same thing to the next floor, and the next (while appearing to jump in 4 or 5 floor increments), occasionaly advancing a floor assembly 20 stories ahead of the collapse wave in a "piston fashion" which simulatneouly crushed drywall into dust, focused this dust into a tight jet pattern and expelled it out exactly one window on each of two faces of the building, continuing to add mass and speed above the collapse front while this accumulating mass became invisible and showed no sign of itself, repeating the "jet plume" trick several more times, proceeding all the way to the ground, where the invisible accumulated pulverizing slegehammer of destruction finally disappeared altogether and left behing a chimney of smoke with a distinct mushroom top, and billowing clouds of dust which looked remarkably like the pyroclastic flows of a volcano (but which weren't), leaving behind a very small pile of rubble, (considering the size of the towers) which somehow imitated a blast furnace inside and melted steel down for months afterward, meanwhile another jet crashed into the Pentagon leaving almost no sign of itself and no sign of its passengers yet somehow left DNA samples, and some round part of the aircraft travelled all the way through the building and stayed perfectly intact enough to punch a very round exit hole through reinforced concrete but then disappeared, meanwhile the forth jet crashed because brave passengers tried to wrestle control away from the hijackers and crashed the plane straight down into a field where it disintegrated and left no sign of itself whatsoever.

Gravy, I think that's what you're working with.

Yes, we've finally turned our back on the insanity that you attributed to us. You've allowed us to finally see the light. From now on, we'll simply believe, like you and all the other Truthers that invisible pink unicorns demoed the WTC with nano-rainbows and pixie thermite dust. Now, let's dance in circles and sing Kumbaya!

 

[TruthSeeker1234]

OK, which part of my run-on sentence is not what you guys think happened? I'm seriously trying to get it right, so I can understand it. I spell it out, and now you say I'm putting words in your mouth.

 

[DavidJames]

OK, which part of my run-on sentence is not what you guys think happened? I'm seriously trying to get it right, so I can understand it. I spell it out, and now you say I'm putting words in your mouth.

Screw your sentence. Stop trying to put words in peoples mouths. Stop trying to simplify something that is inherently complex. Read the f'ing NIST report.

Nevermind - You'd think after raising two kids and sending them to college I'd learn you can't argue with a 6 year old mind.

Carry on child, but be sure to brush your teeth and don't eat to much sugar before you go to bed.