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Gravy vs. Alex Jones: End All Debate!!

theauthor said:
Mark at no time proved Alex Jones wrong. In fact, in that video, Mark is shown to have been lying abot cameras at the pentagon.
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O RLY? Care to back that up with anything, or are we just supposed to take your word for it... again?

Your hero/cult leader was shown to be a bellowing hack. You can stick your fingers in your ears and shout LALALALAICANTHEARYOU all you want, but that doesn't make it less true.
 
theauthor said:
Gravy and Jones did debate, face to face, at Ground zero in 2006.
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Alex Jones claims that Galileo was persecuted because he claimed that the world was round and not flat.

Galileo was not persecuted for that, but because he argued the theory of heliocentrism: That the Earth was not the center of the universe, but that it moved around the Sun.

The idea that the Earth was flat was commonly rejected ever since Aristotle and Eratosthenes, around 300-200 BC.

What do you have to say to this?
 
theauthor said:
Mark at no time proved Alex Jones wrong. In fact, in that video, Mark is shown to have been lying abot cameras at the pentagon.
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Where in the video does Mark lie about cameras at the Pentagon?

From what I can see it's Tom Foti that's rattling on about what Mark supposedly claims.
You seem like you've found something else, something solid.

So, direct me to this "lie"?
You can do that, can't you?
 
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theauthor said:
Mark Roberts has never rang the Alex Jones show. Why is that?
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Why would Mark allow a fact-free lunatic to control the debate? Jones is simply a raving liar who can't defend his fabrications. He would shut down Mark's audio when he was getting pressed too hard.

Debates are largely futile. Video compositing expert Steve Wright showed why Ace's delusion about a real-time composite is impossible. Ace is back, this time on the site of the idiotic YouTube video I linked to ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwcZh42JMog#fl4LgRIsqTs ), calling Wright a liar and repeating all the nonsensical claims that have been thoroughly debunked here and in the debates. Some people are just nuts.
 
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CFLarsen said:
Alex Jones claims that Galileo was persecuted because he claimed that the world was round and not flat.

Galileo was not persecuted for that, but because he argued the theory of heliocentrism: That the Earth was not the center of the universe, but that it moved around the Sun.

The idea that the Earth was flat was commonly rejected ever since Aristotle and Eratosthenes, around 300-200 BC.

What do you have to say to this?
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Jones made a mistake.
 
Hyperviolet said:
Where in the video does Mark lie about cameras at the Pentagon?

From what I can see it's Tom Foti that's rattling on about what Mark supposedly claims.
You seem like you've found something else, something solid.

So, direct me to this "lie"?
You can do that, can't you?
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Roberts claims that there were very few cameras at the pentagon. He states it as a fact, but never backs it up.
 
Why would Mark allow a fact-free lunatic to control the debate? Jones is simply a raving liar who can't defend his fabrications. He would shut down Mark's audio when he was getting pressed too hard.
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Agreed, he would definitely shut Mark off. Wouldn't it be sweet if he was to come on "hardfire" though? If I could see AJ have it handed to him by Roberts again, and in a moderated format, talk about good TV man. I would personally make sure to spam that video to kingdom come!

Debates are largely futile. Video compositing expert Steve Wright showed why Ace's delusion about a real-time composite is impossible. Ace is back, this time on the site of the idiotic YouTube video I linked to, calling Wright a liar and repeating all the nonsensical claims that have been thoroughly debunked here and in the debates. Some people are just nuts.
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Yep, just like Jason Bermas challenging Matt Taibbi to a debate on LC Blog. You would think that boy done lernt his lesson by now......sigh......hasn't stopped the amount of LC groupies either.
 
DaN K. StAnLeY said:
Agreed, he would definitely shut Mark off. Wouldn't it be sweet if he was to come on "hardfire" though? If I could see AJ have it handed to him by Roberts again, and in a moderated format, talk about good TV man. I would personally make sure to spam that video to kingdom come!



Yep, just like Jason Bermas challenging Matt Taibbi to a debate on LC Blog. You would think that boy done lernt his lesson by now......sigh......hasn't stopped the amount of LC groupies either.
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But, the reason these charlatans won't dare to appear with Mark on 'Hardfire' is precisely that they wouldn't be able to shut him down.
 
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Maybe we should just get the boxing gloves out.
 
theauthor said:
Heres the debates I would like to see happen:

Any debunker against sander hicks.

Any debunker against paul thompson

Any debunker against Hopsicker.

Any debunker against Micheal Ruppert.

They wont happen and I think we all know why.
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Sander got beat by a gal named Karol Sheinin on his home court. Karol's not even a regular debunker; she just agreed to this one debate, boned up on the facts and schooled him. I like Sander a lot; he was very friendly and clearly a sharp guy.

Thompson is reportedly inactive, and Ruppert went nuts a couple years ago, first moving down to the people's paradise of Venezuela, and then to Canada. I seem to recall that there are pending charges against him in the USA. Hopsicker's interesting in that he was hot a couple years ago but had pretty much disappeared; I was surprised Justin picked him to be his big "get" for the New England event.
 
theauthor said:
Roberts claims that there were very few cameras at the pentagon. He states it as a fact, but never backs it up.
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And Troofers claim that there were 85 cameras trained on that one spot of the Pentagon. Which estimate do you think is closer?
 
Tweeter said:
Maybe we should just get the boxing gloves out.
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As much as I abhor violence, particularly as an argumentum ad baculum, I should point out that this strategy would also go very badly for the Truth Movement.
 
theauthor said:
Roberts claims that there were very few cameras at the pentagon. He states it as a fact, but never backs it up.
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Could you please prove to us there were 85 cameras at the Pentagon? You don't seem to have a problem taking faith in that and you don't see to question that claim do you? Things that make you go hmmm...
 
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