Gravy vs. Alex Jones: End All Debate!!

DaN K. StAnLeY

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Sorry for the somewhat misleading title:o

I was just thinking of some debates I would like to see take place. The title debate is what I think would be the most entertaining/validating, but the questions I want to ask are.....

A) Do you think there will ever be an "End All" debate that will stop the baseless criticisms of the official version of 9/11.

B) Who would you most like to see duke it out (debate not brawl)? And what effect would it have on the "truth movement" in general?
 
A) no

B) I would like to see any of the "leaders" of the TM engage in a real debate, not just an arguement, judged by a panel of impartial panel.
 
DaN K. StAnLeY said:
A) Do you think there will ever be an "End All" debate that will stop the baseless criticisms of the official version of 9/11.
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No, because there will always be 'true believers' impervious to reason and evidence, and plenty of others wanting to make money from them. Can you imagine Alex Jones ever admitting he was wrong and getting a real job?

DaN K. StAnLeY said:
B) Who would you most like to see duke it out (debate not brawl)? And what effect would it have on the "truth movement" in general?
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It would have little effect on the TM, but I would like to see Nico Haupt vs Dylan Avery, Nico Haupt vs Luke Rudkowski, Nico Haupt vs Alex Jones, all just for the fun of it. Another debate featuring Judy Wood would be amusing too, but perhaps laughing at someone so clearly unhinged is a bit unfair. WebFairy vs pretty much anyone would, likewise, be an interesting freakshow of an event. Oh yeah, and genghis6199 vs Dylan Avery would also be great.

In terms of debunkers debating the so-called 'real truthers' - it's been done to death. They won't budge, no matter what. The Loose Change boys are still heroes to many in the TM, despite getting the smack down from Mark Roberts. Alex Jones is still a hero, despite his childish inability to come up with any proper evidence or arguments when taken on by Mark at ground zero.
 
In terms of debunkers debating the so-called 'real truthers' - it's been done to death. They won't budge, no matter what. The Loose Change boys are still heroes to many in the TM, despite getting the smack down from Mark Roberts. Alex Jones is still a hero, despite his childish inability to come up with any proper evidence or arguments when taken on by Mark at ground zero
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You would think if there was soooo much evidence the people like Dick Gage, D.R. Griff, Alex Jones would have no problem debating anyone. The fact that they don't is so telling to me and should be a red flag for any "truther". I give the Loose Change kids props for at least trying to defend their statements in a pubic venue, but it was the WORST thing they could have done for their credibility. It was completely shot after that to any rational person (truthers excluded of course).:D
 
1. Alex Jones does not debate, he yells and drowns out all dissenting opinion.
2. I would love to see DRG and Mark Roberts Debate.
3. It would have no effect on the TM, as they already ignore any evidence or commentary that is in even slight opposition to their ridiculous claims.

TAM:)
 
theauthor said:
No he didnt.
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Yes, he did.

See? That's the problem with debate settling anything. It's instructive and entertaining, but too subjective to determine truth. That happens through science, research, and logic.
 
Travis said:
Yes, and Jones came off looking like a bellowing lunatic.

That isn't surprising of course.
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I saw that debate, and Jones did look like a lunatic. It proves that he has no clue what he is saying and I link it around all the time. I think it is on the "9/11 Deniers Speak" video from Markyx. He is constantly saying Mark uses "strw-man arguments just to save face from that spanking...lol.

I know he would never go on Hardfire unless there was a neutral host maybe. I would like to see a controlled format with no interference from moronic "truthers". I think that could hurt Jones audience base, a little anyway......NAH, he would say that he was kidnapped by black helicopters and drugged before the debate by FEMA.....and thats why he looked like a lying fool.

Man it would be a sweet thing to see though. I would pitch in for expenses to fly him there and buy him a dozen donuts.
 
The only way Jones would "debate" Roberts is if Mark is tied to a chair with duct tape over his mouth with a comicstrip style dialogue bubble made of cardboard affixed to him that says "me is dum" and Jones gets to stand 5 feet away with a bullhorn. Oh and there is no moderator or time limit.
 
Gravy debating AJ wouldn't be of much use. Mark already caught AJ in a lie right on camera where Alex froze in fear and just responded by yelling "9/11 is an inside job" and pretending the confrontation never took place. Debating AJ would be meaningless because AJ is just a fraud.
 
theauthor said:
No he didnt.
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THEAUTHOR,
Your level of dishonesty is stunning.
AJ came across as a raving a lunatic.
If you had at least acknowledged that but said something like
"well but I still agree with him and support him" then that would have been something.
Everyone makes mistakes why is that NO MATTER WHAT truthers will NEVER ACKNOWLEDGE when one of their own is acting like a complete idiot.
 
I used to think that there had to be somebody in the "movement" who would be tough. Now I don't believe that; all of them use the same nonsense over and over again, no matter how many times it's been debunked. The Great God Griffin's the one I'd most like to tackle, not because he's difficult but because he avoids getting in a situation where he can be pinned down by somebody who knows as much about the events as he does.
 
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