Gravity does not exist

[AWPrime]

Typical unsubstantiated ad hominem assertion to distract from the topic at hand.

One Feynman does not equal all the Scientists.


And in the first post of your thread you stand was that there is no gravity:

But I have yet to see the proof that there is a force called gravity

Now your saying that if someone doesn't have a complete understanding of a force, that it doesn't exist.

Aha! We have a confession! Scientists don't really know whether gravity exists!

I won this debate.

 

[Question]

Not really. You haven't defined "gravity" so I don't know exactly what you mean by the term, but we DO observe an attractive force between any two massive bodies. So, something exists, we don't know if it's gravity as defined by Newton (most proabbly not), if it's due to massive bodies warping spacetime (possibly), or something else entirely.

So, SOMETHING exists, we don't know what it is.

Well, if you're so sure, prove it. Don't just say "we observe." How should I know if you observed that or not? What did you even observe?

 

[Iconoclast]

Then it has no place being taught in public schools.

Yes it DOES, because the equations of Newtonian gravity have real utility in everyday engineering tasks. However, those equations aren't good enough for other things like space travel and GPS, for which we need to use general relativity to get suitably accurate solutions.

 

[AWPrime]

Lame excuse. You won't do the experiments because you don't want to spend time, effort, or money creating additional evidence for their side.

I have done it just now. It took me 0 dollars and 2 minutes. The results were that the ball fell.

Now you can do them yourself, and we will compare the results.

 

[Question]

One Feynman does not equal all the Scientists.


And in the first post of your thread you stand was that there is no gravity:



Now your saying that if someone doesn't have a complete understanding of a force, that it doesn't exist.

I still say there is no gravity, because you haven't proven otherwise.

 

[Soapy Sam]

I'm wondering about ART. I think I'll dismiss that as a cultural relativistic emergent phenomenon.

After lunch, I shall dispose of Quantum Electrodynamics, leaving the nuclear forces for this evening.

I'm on a roll now.

 

[Question]

Yes it DOES, because the equations of Newtonian gravity have real utility in everyday engineering tasks. However, those equations aren't good enough for other things like space travel and GPS, for which we need to use general relativity to get suitably accurate solutions.

But if we don't know for sure that gravity exists in the first place, how can we know for sure that the tools are useful? You contradict yourself.

 

[Question]

I have done it just now. It took me 0 dollars and 2 minutes. The results were that the ball fell.

So you say. Can you post a picture that hasn't been tampered with?

 

[Soapy Sam]

No, he can't because he's wrong.

I've just been up on the roof.

I threw a couple of people off and you know what- They haven't come down yet!

Question- where do you stand on relativity?

Is it us or them?

And how do we test for reality?

Tell us. Tell us , Guru!

 

[AWPrime]

You need to do this as well to confirm the results.


You simply cant be a honest person if you say that you cant make the effort.

 

[Iconoclast]

But if we don't know for sure that gravity exists in the first place, how can we know for sure that the tools are useful? You contradict yourself.

I've already said you were a troll and I stand by that. Unfortunately I'm already bored with playing with you, so you'll have to go back to playing with yourself.

 

[H'ethetheth]

Lame excuse. You won't do the experiments because you don't want to spend time, effort, or money creating additional evidence for their side.

Ey presto, I did the experiment. I threw my eraser away, and sometimes it came back to my hand. It worked in only one general direction. All other throwing directions (I tried about 10) resulted in the eraser not returning to my hand without me having to exert effort to get it back there.
This is a prediction made by the theory of gravity, which I have hereby corroborated somewhat.
Jumping to the moon would constitute a falsification of the theory of gravity.
Therefore, by not jumping to the moon, despite several attempts, I created additional evidence for "their side".
"Their side" has the burden of coming up with so called critical tests that would falsify the theory. They have, and if you visit your local library, you will find that gravity has not been falsified yet.

Of course, you'll have to take my word for it, but if you're really anxious about disproving gravity, you're welcome to come over, have a beer here and watch me repeat the experiments. While you're enjoying your beverage, we might think of some other critical experiments to conduct.

Also, maybe you have an alternate theory that explains why I cannot jump to the moon. We might discuss this also.

 

[H'ethetheth]

Bah, sorry for double post. Something went wrong here.

 

[Soapy Sam]

Oh, ye of little faith!

how dare you question the Question?


For he is one of the Great Questions.


Gravity is not a matter for levity!

 

[H'ethetheth]

Oh, ye of little faith!

how dare you question the Question?


For he is one of the Great Questions.


Gravity is not a matter for levity!

True words, but where I come from, people call me "SKEPTOR THE SUPREME QUESTIONER".

I question even Question's questions.

 

[Kumar]

Hi all,

I think it is becoming 'prove earth is round not flat' type topic. If you don't accept & respect other's observations & experiances of mass existing......nature others can also deny & disrespect/dismean 'least observed & experianced concepts as earth is......

I also wonder that if earth is round, how this much water can be holded for such a long time & on fast revolving earth.

Question, since earth & other plannets(except plannet X) is revolving/moving very fast & so their atmosphere is also moving along with those. Pull/sucsion alike tarnado/whirlpool can be there. As indicated in my threads, we, stones woods etc are not ferromagnet materials so no magnetic effect, furthur it works on mass, more pull will be there in tarnado if mass is more.

Hope this make it logics.

 

[Iconoclast]

I think it is becoming 'prove earth is round not flat' type topic. If you don't accept & respect other's observations & experiances of mass existing......nature others can also deny & disrespect/dismean 'least observed & experianced concepts as earth is......

Finally the voice of reason.

 

[epepke]

Noone this stupid has the mental capacity to use a computer.

Relax. It's burlesque. Not very good burlesque, mind you, but burlesque nonetheless.

 

[Question]

Hi all,

I think it is becoming 'prove earth is round not flat' type topic. If you don't accept & respect other's observations & experiances of mass existing......nature others can also deny & disrespect/dismean 'least observed & experianced concepts as earth is......

I also wonder that if earth is round, how this much water can be holded for such a long time & on fast revolving earth.

Question, since earth & other plannets(except plannet X) is revolving/moving very fast & so their atmosphere is also moving along with those. Pull/sucsion alike tarnado/whirlpool can be there. As indicated in my threads, we, stones woods etc are not ferromagnet materials so no magnetic effect, furthur it works on mass, more pull will be there in tarnado if mass is more.

Hope this make it logics.

I cannot simply accept anecdotal evidence for the existence of gravity. Just because the people who say it is works are "mass existing" does not mean it actually works. Those who say gravity is so superfluous should have no trouble showing proof on this forum.

 

[Soapy Sam]

"I cannot simply accept anecdotal evidence for the existence of gravity. Just because the people who say it is works are "mass existing" does not mean it actually works. Those who say gravity is so superfluous should have no trouble showing proof on this forum."- Question.

Absolutely. We can only admire your rigorous standard of evidence.

"those who say gravity is so superfluous." should indeed.