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GOP's ACORN Moment

The GOP's "ACORN" moment was Romney's now infamous "47 percent" speech.

It is far more legitimate and damning than anything O'Keefe or Breitbart were ever able to doctor up.

And as others have predicted, it will go down in history as a significant moment in modern U.S. politics.
 
jj said:
The only difference is that this guy didn't get his funding cut yet, and he's getting away with what appears to be federal crimes.

Then there was the guy who was asking people "obama or romney" and only registering people for Romney. That's a flat-out crime, too.
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it's the same guy.

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it's a good thing the liberal media is all over this!
 
Upchurch said:
They were, as a group, innocent of any wrong doing and were following the law when the submitted every registration they received, even if they were sure it was fraudulent.
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ACORN was a corrupt organization from the top down.
 
Neally said:
ACORN was a corrupt organization from the top down.
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Ummm, no. But thank you for playing.

What is it about free and open democratic elections which scares "some people" so much? :confused:
 
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Robrob said:
Ummm, no. But thank you for playing.

What is it about free and open democratic elections which scares "some people" so much? :confused:
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Some people think that some "types" of people shouldn't be able to vote.
 
thaiboxerken said:
Bullspit. Take your lies to the Fox News blogs where they appreciate them.
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Robrob said:
Ummm, no. But thank you for playing.
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Remarkably, the left still clings to the bit about ACORN being a righteous organization that was brought down by some sort of right wing conspiracy, despite the facts that show that it was a corrupt entity on all levels:

  • Multiple cases of voter fraud and not just by contractors, but by employees.
  • Dale Rathke, the brother of ACORN's founder Wade Rathke, was found to have embezzled $948,607.50. ACORN executives decided to handle it as an internal matter, and did not inform most of the board members or law enforcement. When two members of the board tried to get the financial details, they were fired.
  • While one of the employees in the now famous videos reported the incident to police, and one said they thought it was a hoax, the rest willing went along with the ruse, showing a lack of moral character, although not crossing the line of criminal action.
 
Neally said:
Remarkably, the left still clings to the bit about ACORN being a righteous organization that was brought down by some sort of right wing conspiracy, despite the facts that show that it was a corrupt entity on all levels:

  • Multiple cases of voter fraud and not just by contractors, but by employees.
  • Dale Rathke, the brother of ACORN's founder Wade Rathke, was found to have embezzled $948,607.50. ACORN executives decided to handle it as an internal matter, and did not inform most of the board members or law enforcement. When two members of the board tried to get the financial details, they were fired.
  • While one of the employees in the now famous videos reported the incident to police, and one said they thought it was a hoax, the rest willing went along with the ruse, showing a lack of moral character, although not crossing the line of criminal action.
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No instances of voter fraud were committed.

The Dale story, I hadn't heard. How does that mean the entire organization is fraudulent from top down? The organization helped many people register to vote and get home loans. The fact that those were probably the wrong "type " of people doesn't make it a fraudulent group.

Defending the Breitbart/O'Keefe tapes shows that facts don't really bother you.
 
thaiboxerken said:
No instances of voter fraud were committed.
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So okay, voter registration fraud is cool then.

The Dale story, I hadn't heard.
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Why am I not surprised?
How does that mean the entire organization is fraudulent from top down?
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Um well, not every person in the organization was corrupt, but when the highest levels at the top pull something like that, and you have multiple instances at other levels as cited in the link, it's fair to characterize the group as corrupt.

The organization helped many people register to vote and get home loans. The fact that those were probably the wrong "type " of people doesn't make it a fraudulent group.
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Still trying to hand wave away the corruption I see...

Defending the Breitbart/O'Keefe tapes shows that facts don't really bother you.
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I've cited the facts in the video incident. You're the one clearly ignorant about the facts of the group.
 
Neally said:
So okay, voter registration fraud is cool then.
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It certainly doesn't effect the election.

Why am I not surprised? Um well, not every person in the organization was corrupt, but when the highest levels at the top pull something like that, and you have multiple instances at other levels as cited in the link, it's fair to characterize the group as corrupt.
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How do you feel about Catholics?
I've cited the facts in the video incident. You're the one clearly ignorant about the facts of the group.
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You mean the video that doesn't tell the whole story? Investigation into the allegations of O'Keefe and Breitbart turned up nothing. Should I believe law enforcement or you?
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
So it's not the fraud that bothered you, just the funding based on the clientele served? :cool:
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That's what the outrage was over ACORN, not that they committed fraud but that they collected federal money to do so. Result was ACORN was written out of the federal budget.
 
thaiboxerken said:
It certainly doesn't effect the election.
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Well if you don't want to consider voter registration fraud as something corrupt, I guess there's no point in discussing how corrupt the organization behind it is.

How do you feel about Catholics?
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We all know about the incidents of coverup don't we? That would certainly show levels of corruption. See, I'm willing to accept the facts and apply the standards equitably, unlike some partisans here.

You mean the video that doesn't tell the whole story? Investigation into the allegations of O'Keefe and Breitbart turned up nothing. Should I believe law enforcement or you?
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You should look beyond The Huffington Post and Daily Kos when they say, "move along, nothing to see here..." I mean the facts including transcripts that show that out of the 7 offices that were recorded only 2 of them get a pass on not aiding and going along with the ruse. The investigations don't counter this fact. The investigations simply said that those that did go along with it, did not commit any crimes. You might want to do a bit more research before pronouncing "Bullspit".
 
WildCat said:
That's what the outrage was over ACORN, not that they committed fraud but that they collected federal money to do so. Result was ACORN was written out of the federal budget.
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And yet that funding did a lot of things assisting people who needed assistance. It comes down to, the poor are leeches when tax dollars are spent on them and when your tax dollars go to the corporation that has an inordinate influence on your legislators, that is not leeching.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
And yet that funding did a lot of things assisting people who needed assistance. It comes down to, the poor are leeches when tax dollars are spent on them and when your tax dollars go to the corporation that has an inordinate influence on your legislators, that is not leeching.
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None of which is even relevant to my post.
 
Neally said:
Well if you don't want to consider voter registration fraud as something corrupt, I guess there's no point in discussing how corrupt the organization behind it is.
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Facts not in evidence in regard to ACORN. ACORN did what the law required, and did in fact tip off the registrar that things seemed odd.

Compare this to the GOP-hired folks who would not assist Obama voters to register, and the county official that reportedly endorsed this position.

These facts are transparently in evidence in regard to the latest GOP felony.
 
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