Google's Nexus 7

[TheL8Elvis]

That's two things.

Also bluetooth, memory , processor speed, resolution....

This device is going after the Kindle Fire, not the iPad. It's trying to exploit the same business model as the Fire as well. The money, they hope, will be a regular stream as users buy books, magazines, music and movies.

Understood. Those were all features that the nexus has that are better than the kindle fire.

I would expect the Fire to leapfrog it feature wise in the next 6 months.

I, for one, like the competition. I also am beginning to regret buying an Ainol Aurora last month. But alas, waiting for the perfect technology product will just mean you'll never get anything. I think I can justify the next generation of Fire when it comes out.

Who wouldn't regret an anal aurora

But yes, at some point you have to just jump in, or be left forever waiting for the next best thing.

IDK how much better the next fire will be. I think they may just drop the current price to 149 and offer a 10" @ 199. Amazon has done a better job than google , IMHO, emulating apple and downplaying specs and emphasizing price and use.

Also:
http://allthingsd.com/20120627/excl...onney-shih-on-how-they-cooked-up-the-nexus-7/

One way the companies managed that is through razor-thin margins. Google is selling the device through its Google Play store, essentially at cost, and also absorbing the marketing costs associated with the device.

 

[This is The End]

No you wouldn't.

Hey, don't single me out. I was just going by the info given in this thread, which I quoted.

Also your link doesn't exactly sound like a definite "No you wouldn't".

In fact, it reads to me like a very likely "Yes I would if I try hard enough".

 

[TheL8Elvis]

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columnist/edwardbaig/story/2012-07-03/nexus-7-tablet-review/56005986/1

Review: Google's Nexus 7 is the budget tablet to beat

It's amazing how many times the word iPad is used in this review.

Also, no adobe flash.

In fact, from 4.1 -> , it appears flash will be officially unsupported.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/29/3125219/flash-mobile-android-4-1-not-supported

But at least the Nexus 7 is less expensive and a smaller form factor ... for now...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-03/here-comes-nexus-7-nightmare-the-ipad-mini.html
Apple Inc. (AAPL) plans to debut a smaller, cheaper iPad by year-end, two people with knowledge of the plans said, to help maintain dominance of the tablet market as Google Inc. (GOOG) and Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) prepare competing handheld devices.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304141204577506471913819412.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Apple Inc.'s AAPL +1.03% component suppliers in Asia are preparing for mass production in September of a tablet computer with a smaller screen than the iPad, people familiar with the situation said, suggesting a launch for the device is near.

 

[WildCat]

So now Apple is copying Samsung.

 

[The Dark Lord]

So now Apple is copying Samsung.

Samsung isn't making this device. It is Asus, I believe.

ETA: Samsung does make smaller tablets so never mind.

The most blatant copying that Apple has done is the "Notification Center". I think this is a much more blatant copy than anything that Google/Android manufacturers have done. The pull down notifications have been in Android since the beginning, if I am not mistaken. And I believe there is a patent pending. I hope Google sues the crap out of Apple and wins.

 

[WildCat]

Samsung isn't making this device. It is Asus, I believe.

ETA: Samsung does make smaller tablets so never mind.

The most blatant copying that Apple has done is the "Notification Center". I think this is a much more blatant copy than anything that Google/Android manufacturers have done. The pull down notifications have been in Android since the beginning, if I am not mistaken. And I believe there is a patent pending. I hope Google sues the crap out of Apple and wins.

Yes, both Samsung and Google (Asus) have beat Apple to the small tablet market. I don't consider the Kindle to be a real tablet since it's too specialized.

 

[kajata]

So now Apple is copying Samsung.

I dunno. No Flash, no removable battery, no expandable memory. Seems like everyone is still copying Apple

And Dark Lord...is copying the notification center more blatant than how Samsung copied this

 

[The Dark Lord]

I dunno. No Flash, no removable battery, no expandable memory. Seems like everyone is still copying Apple

And Dark Lord...is copying the notification center more blatant than how Samsung copied this

Considering that the screen shot from the Galaxy S is from the app drawer (which the iPhone doesn't even have) rather than the home screen I think so.

 

[BowlOfRed]

I'd stick a .50¢ adapter on a 16gb USB Flash Drive and leave it there.

No you wouldn't.

That's exactly what I'm planning on doing as well. I expect it will be rooted so that this is easy to do before I get mine.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

Yes, both Samsung and Google (Asus) have beat Apple to the small tablet market. I don't consider the Kindle to be a real tablet since it's too specialized.

"small tablet market"

ROTFLMAO

you're funny....

 

[The Dark Lord]

"small tablet market"

ROTFLMAO

you're funny....

They're isn't a market for small tablets? Why is Apple supposedly making one?

 

[This is The End]

That's exactly what I'm planning on doing as well. I expect it will be rooted so that this is easy to do before I get mine.

Apparently they are almost there (or there already depending on what your needs are).

From one of the comments at Cuddles' link:

Check out the nexus 7 formus on XDA. There are people with root and they have OTG usb storage working. Files can be written and read from the external USB storage. Only issue at the moment is that mount points or something is wrong so direct playback of media (videos) from the external storage is not working. expect that to be fixed soon.

 

[Cuddles]

I dunno. No Flash, no removable battery, no expandable memory. Seems like everyone is still copying Apple

Ever seen an older tablet from before Apple decided they'd invented the idea? Fixed batteries and storage in a tablet has been the norm for quite a while. Of course, it was less of an issue when "storage" meant "hard drive". My Archos has 160GB so it really doesn't need expandable memory. That only becomes an issue when people insist on making a device specifically designed to play media without enough space to actually store any media on it.

As for Flash, that's nothing to with Apple, it's just on its way out and being replaced by newer software. Apple refused to have anything to do with it even when it absolutely dominated the internet and therefore locked their uses out of an awful lot of content. Other companies phasing it out in favour of a replacement just isn't the same thing.

They're isn't a market for small tablets? Why is Apple supposedly making one?

It's particularly interesting given that Steve Jobs explicitly said that 10 inches was the absolute minimum tablet size possible, and that Apple wouldn't make anything smaller. Yet here they are making a smaller tablet, with no bigger tablets in sight.

 

[kajata]

Ever seen an older tablet from before Apple decided they'd invented the idea? Fixed batteries and storage in a tablet has been the norm for quite a while. Of course, it was less of an issue when "storage" meant "hard drive". My Archos has 160GB so it really doesn't need expandable memory. That only becomes an issue when people insist on making a device specifically designed to play media without enough space to actually store any media on it.

As for Flash, that's nothing to with Apple, it's just on its way out and being replaced by newer software. Apple refused to have anything to do with it even when it absolutely dominated the internet and therefore locked their uses out of an awful lot of content. Other companies phasing it out in favour of a replacement just isn't the same thing.

That smiley face you cut off meant I'm just kidding around.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

Ever seen an older tablet from before Apple decided they'd invented the idea?

You seem to be the only one in this thread claiming Apple invented the idea...

Fixed batteries and storage in a tablet has been the norm for quite a while. Of course, it was less of an issue when "storage" meant "hard drive". My Archos has 160GB so it really doesn't need expandable memory. That only becomes an issue when people insist on making a device specifically designed to play media without enough space to actually store any media on it.

Who makes a device without enough space to actually store media on it ?

As for Flash, that's nothing to with Apple, it's just on its way out and being replaced by newer software.

I disagree. Flash being on its way has much to do with apple not supporting it.

Apple refused to have anything to do with it even when it absolutely dominated the internet and therefore locked their uses out of an awful lot of content. Other companies phasing it out in favour of a replacement just isn't the same thing.

Other companies are phasing it out because Adobe is no longer supporting mobile flash. Not because other companies all got together and decided to move to HTML5

It's particularly interesting given that Steve Jobs explicitly said that 10 inches was the absolute minimum tablet size possible,

"There are clear limits of how close you can physically place elements on a touch screen before users cannot reliably tap, flick or pinch them. This is one of the key reasons we think the 10-inch screen size is the minimum size required to create great tablet apps," he said.

and that Apple wouldn't make anything smaller. Yet here they are making a smaller tablet, with no bigger tablets in sight.

Where did he say what I bolded ? At any rate, Jobs is no longer controlling the direction of the company in the same way he was when he talked about tablet size a few years ago...

 

[richardm]

What way is he controlling it now? Shoving a planchette around in the boardroom?

 

[Duffy Moon]

There's an app for that:

 

[Captain_Snort]

I have a 10.1" Acer tablet, that I find invaluable, though a bit heavy for on the go use. I am very tempted by the nexus 7, just trying to justify it to myself. The stuff people have said here as marking it down are really petty, no back camera? Well, have a phone for that. No 3g/4g, well my android phone happily acts as a wireless access point. No SD / full size USB slot, that will be a minor irritation as I like to carry a lot of music on me, but I can happily stream from my home network, or a myriad of other sources, anyway, on the move, have my phone.

 

[This is The End]

They're isn't a market for small tablets? Why is Apple supposedly making one?

Updated** rumors:

http://www.technolog.msnbc.msn.com/...umor-smaller-ipad-coming-time-holidays-868362

http://www.macotakara.jp/blog/index.php?ID=17085

It will be called the iPad Mini

It will be the same height as the Nexus 7 (7.81 inches) and either a bit wider or a bit less wide than the Nexus 7 (conflicting reports on width).

It will be very thin.

Both it and a new iPhone model will be out for the holidays.​

The consensus at the macrumors forums is that the rumors are false:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1400057

Though, personally, I would be more 50/50.


**(Last weeks links):

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-03/here-comes-nexus-7-nightmare-the-ipad-mini.html

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304141204577506471913819412.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

 

[TheL8Elvis]

What way is he controlling it now? Shoving a planchette around in the boardroom?

Maybe ?

I think the 'legacy' of Jobs may actually have some sway on decisions. WWJD ?

Then again, maybe not ... idk, so I decided to err on the side of caution.