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God's pool party

burgerjockey

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I was wondering if anyone here could actually think of a good reason for God to flood the earth instead of just killing everyone that he didn't like. It seems like it would have been much easier and have infinitely less clean up. What would the flood benefits be?
 
So we could tell later on that it didn't really happen.

A real global flood as described in Genesis would leave plenty of clues to find today.
 
Ancient people probably wouldn't be too impressed with the idea of mankind getting wiped out by a good smiting, since they wouldn't really be able to connect it to anything in their experience.

Whereas flooding may have been a more well-known mode of massive catastrophe.
 
IMHO lots of rain isn't really too impressive. I would have been much more afraid of some disease that liquified your inards. Then again, I am not as "loving" as God is.
 
UserGoogol said:
It's symbolic. Water washes away the evil, or something.

Then god could have made a sphere of water around everyone "he" wanted to die. No babies, and billions of animals had to die when they didn't do anything. Or all the bad people could have been put into one large water sphere in the air to drown. There wouldn't have been that many people living at the time of the flood if Genesis is true. A global flood is overkill by many orders of magnitude.
 
Well, the Tigris and Euphrates flood all the time because of all the rain they get further upstream.

Or maybe God was high.
 
SkepticJ said:
Then god could have made a sphere of water around everyone "he" wanted to die. No babies, and billions of animals had to die when they didn't do anything. Or all the bad people could have been put into one large water sphere in the air to drown. There wouldn't have been that many people living at the time of the flood if Genesis is true. A global flood is overkill by many orders of magnitude.

Where's the fun in that?
 
God let the taps run over in the sink, and later tried to claim he'd "meant to do that" because we were, y'know, evil and everything. It was our fault, god being perfect and all. Yeah, that's the ticket.
 
I'm glad we had the flood because without the flood we'd never have rainbows.

Genesis
9:11 And I will establish my covenant with you, neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.
9:12 And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations:
9:13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.
9:14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:
9:15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.
9:16 And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.
9:17 And God said unto Noah, This is the token of the covenant, which I have established between me and all flesh that is upon the earth.


I'm not quite sure why God needs a reminder not to kill every living creature, but rainbows sure are pretty.
 
I'd be much cooler if all the sinners turned to water and caused a bit of a flood. That'd convince me to go on the straight and narrow, especially if it was a slow process.
 
I heard of some theory (can't find it on the web) that the Black Sea was formed suddenly and catastrophically, an event that inspired the flood legends found throughout ancient middle-east cultures.
 
jökulhlaup is your answer. It is an Icelandic term for a catastrophic flood caused ba a Glacial meltwater lake suddenly letting go of the contents of the lake. Now, if you take into accoount that the last iceage in the Northern Hemisphere occurred ~10K years ago, it fits pretty nicely into a book that was written in the year (?)A.D. (the bible that is), might have accounts in it of previous jökulhlaups occurring in a variey of places around the globe. I know it does not fit with the 40 days and 40 nights of rain directly - but if you had that much rain filling up a previously stable glacial lake - maybe it was just enough for it to let go.

There's plenty of evidence of these types of events near where I live in Canada. Check here for a link:

www.sentex.net/~tcc/cfdb-wcn.html

I'm sure there are plenty in southern Europe and Asia as well. I think the responsible party is Mr. Murphy....not God
 
Somewhat on topic, in one of the debates between Hovind and Massimo Pigliucci:
Pigliucci: "Approximately how many species do you think Noah fit on the arc?"
Hovind: "10,000"
Pigliucci: "And if you believe that from 10,000 in 5000 years we have all the millions of species that we have today, you believe in a hell of a lot more evolution than I do."
 
RussDill said:
I'd be much cooler if all the sinners turned to water and caused a bit of a flood. That'd convince me to go on the straight and narrow, especially if it was a slow process.
It would be really scary if God turned the remaining 1/3 of the human body into water :re:
 
burgerjockey said:
I was wondering if anyone here could actually think of a good reason for God to flood the earth instead of just killing everyone that he didn't like. It seems like it would have been much easier and have infinitely less clean up. What would the flood benefits be?


Sure. That one is almost a no-brainer. The key lies in the ancient cosmology with the earth being a disc with a solid dome, the firmament, existing in some primeval ocean, in the Bible known as "the deep."

Just have a look ...

OTcosmos.jpg



http://www.aarweb.org/syllabus/syllabi/g/gier/306/commoncosmos.htm

 
Re: Re: God's pool party

Lord Emsworth said:
Sure. That one is almost a no-brainer. The key lies in the ancient cosmology with the earth being a disc with a solid dome, the firmament, existing in some primeval ocean, in the Bible known as "the deep."

Just have a look ...

OTcosmos.jpg



http://www.aarweb.org/syllabus/syllabi/g/gier/306/commoncosmos.htm


Those pillare must be embedded in something under all that water, unless they're hollow and float the earth the way oil drilling platforms float when they're being moved around.

Or are on the back of a turtle that's swimming, which amounts to the same principle.

I think Atlas should be in that picture somewhere, too. Which archangel was he again?
 

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