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Cont: Global warming discussion V

The Sick Times on bsky, Sep 17, 2026
This week at The Sick Times, Selina Nwulu argues that corporate interests have had more say in our behaviors toward both COVID-19 and the climate crisis than any evidence-based public health response.
thesicktimes.org/2026/09/15/d...

Denial is a tactic for both the COVID-19 and climate crises (The Sick Times, Sep 15, 2026)
Corporate interests have had more say in our behaviors toward both COVID-19 and the climate crisis than any evidence-based public health response.
Fossil fuel companies have long led climate change minimization and denial, stalling our collective ability to respond. Some of these companies even ran coordinated misinformation campaigns to obscure the real impacts of the climate crisis, despite knowing since the 1970s the deathly consequences of fossil fuel expansion. During the Biden administration, ExxonMobil lobbied to weaken key climate initiatives so that they could continue their business operations, despite public statements in favor of tackling climate change.

The second of the two embedded links is to this article:
Inside Exxon’s playbook: How America’s biggest oil company continues to oppose action on climate change (Unearthed, June 30, 2021)

It has paragraph about how ExxonMobil targets senators, not only Republicans but also Democrats:
“On the Democrat side we look for the moderates on these issues”, McCoy continued, highlighting figures including Arizona senator Kyrsten Sinema; John Tester, senator for Montana; and Chris Coons, senator for Delaware, President Biden’s home state.
“Senator Coons… has a very close relationship with Senator [President] Biden, so we’ve been working with his office – as a matter of fact our CEO is talking to him next Tuesday and having those conversations and just teeing it up, and then that way I can start working with his staff to let them know where we are on some of these issues,” McCoy said.
He added that he targets senators like Mark Kelly, Democrat senator from Arizona, New Hampshire Democrat senator Maggie Hassan, and Florida Republican senator Marco Rubio, who are up for reelection in 2022.

Since the article is from 2021, it says nothing about how ExxonMobil targets James Talarico, but since nobody is more 'moderate on these issues' than him, he is a very obvious target.
 
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I haven't quite finished with Stout's post from Tuesday, Sep 15:
Meanwhile in Canada, our educations of higher learning are teaching that, yes individual action does matter. CBC

Good to see that the universities are finally catching up to me and willing to toss the whole idea of individual actions don't matter, all you need to do is complain, to the bottom of the priorities pile where it belongs.

I googled this question – mainly because I already knew that it's what the fossil-fuel industry does; It's not just Stout and Myriad!
"Why does the fossil-fuel industry encourage individuals to save energy?"
This was Google's short answer:
"The fossil-fuel industry encourages individuals to save energy primarily to shift blame for climate change from corporate polluters onto ordinary consumers. [1]"

It surprised me how blunt the answer is. There's really no beating around the bush here.
Like me, you may also have noticed a peculiar consistency in Stout's arguments (Myriad is not as consistent):
1) On the one had, he insists the it's up to individual consumers to limit the use of fossil fuels.
2) On the other hand, he gleefully reports that those individual consumers don't actually do that – not because they can't but because they just love fossil fuel too much!
And now you know why: Stout is simply following Big Oil's playbook!

Google continues:
Shifting Responsibility
    • The Carbon Footprint Concept: Energy giants like BP popularized the idea of the individual "carbon footprint" and launched personal carbon calculators in the early 2000s. [1, 2]
    • Deflecting Accountability: By framing global warming as the result of personal lifestyle choices, companies distract the public from systemic production emissions and lobby efforts. [1, 2]
    • Delaying Regulation: Focusing on individual behavior change helps stall government policy, carbon taxes, and mandatory caps on fossil fuel extraction. [1, 2]
Managing Demand
    • Smoothing Consumption: Promoting energy efficiency helps utilities manage "peak demand," reducing the risk of grid overloads and expensive infrastructure upgrades. [1]
    • Maintaining Reliance: Encouraging small conservation steps lets consumers feel virtuous while keeping overall structural dependence on oil and gas intact. [1]

Google links to these articles, among others:
How oil companies put the responsibility for climate change on consumers (The Conversation, Oct 11, 2023)
Big oil coined 'carbon footprints' to blame us for their greed. (The Guardian, Aug 23, 2021)
This is Google's summary of the BP campaign:
How the Campaign Worked
    • The Launch: BP spent millions on a rebrand known as "Beyond Petroleum".
    • The Tool: In 2004, they released the first online personal carbon calculator.
    • The Goal: The campaign encouraged people to track and reduce their daily energy use. This distracted the public from the heavy pollution caused by fossil fuel production. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]
 
The second of the two embedded links is to this article:
Inside Exxon’s playbook: How America’s biggest oil company continues to oppose action on climate change (Unearthed, June 30, 2021)
our CEO is talking to him next Tuesday and having those conversations and just teeing it up, and then that way I can start working with his staff to let them know where we are on some of these issues,” McCoy said.
I don't see anything wrong with that. The government should be taking note of where major businesses are on issues. The government should also be informing them about where the future is going and how it can help them adapt to it. America consumes ~20 million barrels of oil per day. The EIA estimates a reduction of 15-25% by 2050, which means oil companies will still have a large presence for many decades to come.
 
Google links to these articles, among others:
How oil companies put the responsibility for climate change on consumers (The Conversation, Oct 11, 2023)
Big oil coined 'carbon footprints' to blame us for their greed. (The Guardian, Aug 23, 2021)
This is Google's summary of the BP campaign:
Carbon Footprint
The term carbon footprint was first used in a BBC vegetarian food magazine in 1999, though the broader concept of ecological footprint, which encompasses the carbon footprint, had been used since at least 1992, as also chronicled by journalist William Safire in the New York Times.
6 years later BP used it to 'blame us for their greed'. Perhaps this is true, but if so it's ironical because if it had been successful BP would have lost a ton of revenue.

In practice of course they didn't have to worry. Only a few greenies would bother to even calculate their 'carbon footprint', let alone do anything significant to reduce it. The actual effect was that the vast majority either ignored it or realized there wasn't much they could do about it - which is exactly the message you are pushing. Whether by accident or design, BP's advertising campaign correctly informed the public of how much an individual in 2005 could affect GHG emissions by 'being the change'.

If the purpose really was to 'blame us for their greed' it failed miserably. However I don't think that was the intention, I think it was just 'green washing'. But was BP just green washing? In 1999 BP Solar was the largest manufacturer of solar panels in the world. I think they saw the future and were readying themselves to transition away from oil when the time came. Note that North Sea oil production peaked in 1999 and the field is now 90% depleted. BP put their North Sea business up for sale in July 2026.
BP has said it is putting its North Sea business up for sale in a move that would end 60 years of production in the region by the oil giant. The decision follows a review of BP's operations as it seeks to slim down the group.
Why is BP 'slimming down'? I think they see the writing on the wall. In 2005 consumers didn't have much opportunity to reduce fossil fuel consumption. Today they do, and with high fuel prices due to the wars in Ukraine and Iran they have more incentive to do so.
 
I love headlines like this:
Japan's New Invention Could Make Wind Turbines Obsolete (on YouTube, Sep 11, 2026 – 22:40 min.)


Considering the conclusion, No, it couldn't, they could at least have made a Betteridge headline and asked a question instead of presenting it as a fact. Instead, they pretend that they were merely asking a question:

19:45–> Time to answer the question you clicked for:
Could Japan's inventions actually make wind turbines obsolete?
Here's the answer, and I promised it wouldn't be what you expect:
The classic wind turbine is not going to disappear. In the steady winds of northern Europe, across American plains, in the growing offshore farms of the North Sea, the three-blade giant remains the cheapest, most proven way humanity has ever found to pull electricity out of moving air. And it will keep spinning there for decades. If you are hoping to watch the wind industry collapse, that's not the ending.
 
Carbon Footprint
6 years later BP used it to 'blame us for their greed'. Perhaps this is true, but if so it's ironical because if it had been successful BP would have lost a ton of revenue.
The Wikipedia article you link to explains how exactly BP "used it to 'blame us for their greed'":
In 2005, fossil fuel company BP hired the large advertising campaign Ogilvy to popularize the idea of a carbon footprint for individuals. The campaign instructed people to calculate their personal footprints and provided ways for people to "go on a low-carbon diet".
It's like the fraudulent use of GDP to prove how rich Americans are! Yes, Musk and Bezos are extremely rich, but that doesn't make Americans living pay-check-to-paycheck any richer.
In the case of BP, what fossil-fuel companies and politicians do to the atmosphere doesn't make people who don't have much choice responsible for global warming.
BP came up with the fraudulent argument that individuals are the ones who make the decisions by demanding gas-guzzling cars and gas stoves when infrastructure was what makes those things the most convenient and often unavoidable solution for them thanks to an infrastructure that the fossil-fuel industry and car manufacturers bribe politicians to build.
BP did indeed blame individual consumers for the calamities caused by the greed of oligarchs.
There's no irony there.
In practice of course they didn't have to worry. Only a few greenies would bother to even calculate their 'carbon footprint', let alone do anything significant to reduce it.
Why would they worry? They were the ones who made the argument!
This was the point of post 2,658:
Ignoring the systems of inequality that result in a world where many are forced to depend on cheap, unsustainably produced items is bad enough. Going a step further by telling these same people – who cannot afford to buy more expensive, sustainably made products – that they alone must reverse the cycle of consumerism is naive at best and classist at worst.

It's what Stout and Myriad – and sometimes you yourself – never grow tired of repeating:
The actual effect was that the vast majority either ignored it or realized there wasn't much they could do about it - which is exactly the message you are pushing. Whether by accident or design, BP's advertising campaign correctly informed the public of how much an individual in 2005 could affect GHG emissions by 'being the change'.
No, BP's advertising campaign didn't correctly inform the public of anything. Much like Stout, BP told individual consumers that they alone because of their interest in living comfortable lives (in the servitude of billionaires) – not BP and the other fossil-fuel companies – they alone were the cause of global warming. Much the same way that Big Tobacco had been telling smokers that they were sophisticated and discerning connoisseurs of a luxurious stimulant with no adverse effects. Freedumb!
If the purpose really was to 'blame us for their greed' it failed miserably. However I don't think that was the intention, I think it was just 'green washing'. But was BP just green washing? In 1999 BP Solar was the largest manufacturer of solar panels in the world. I think they saw the future and were readying themselves to transition away from oil when the time came. Note that North Sea oil production peaked in 1999 and the field is now 90% depleted. BP put their North Sea business up for sale in July 2026.
No, it didn't fail miserably. It succeeded triumphantly. It kept the oil wells running and profits growing while delaying the transition to renewables. Notice that they managed to pump their oil wells almost dry. Notice also that BP didn't just shut them down! Putting them up for sale is the capitalist way of making sure that the remaining 10% won't be left in the ground.
It's how capitalism works – also after a crash: the means of production that are no longer profitable get devalued to the point where they become so cheap that another investor can acquire them and make a profit using them.

Why is BP 'slimming down'? I think they see the writing on the wall. In 2005 consumers didn't have much opportunity to reduce fossil fuel consumption. Today they do, and with high fuel prices due to the wars in Ukraine and Iran they have more incentive to do so.
Of course BP 'sees the writing on the wall.' The fossil-fuel industry has known about this for at least the past 50-60 years.
You again pretend that it's a question of individual consumers and their opportunities. You refuse to see why those consumers didn't have much opportunity to reduce fossil-fuel consumption in 2005!

Because infrastructure giving them the opportunity to reduce fossil-fuel consumption wasn't built or even planned!
Because infrastructure based on fossil-fuel consuming cars was built instead of electrified public transport and bike lanes.
I'll recommend a series of articles published simultaneously in Danish and English: post 718 in the thread about the global obesity epidemic. One of the articles mentions how cheap bicycle infrastructure is in comparison to motorways:
Denmark is a cycling nation, but our research shows rates are declining – here’s why (TheConversation, Sep 8, 2026)
The annual investment in motorways in Denmark is 4-6 billion DKK (US$580–870m) a year whereas annual state investment in cycling infrastructure is 200-300 million DKK (US$29–44m) a year.
And that is in a country that is famous for (allegedly) promoting bicycling!
There's also this:
Elektrisk bilsalg: Elbiler har kurs mod 90 procent (FDM, Sep 3, 2026)
Andelen af elbiler i det danske bilsalg tog i august endnu et trin opad og ligger nu på 86 pct. FDM forventer, at elbiler vil fylde endnu mere senere i 2026.
Electric car sales: EVs on track to reach 90 percent
The share of electric cars in Danish vehicle sales rose again in August, reaching 86%. FDM expects electric cars to account for an even larger share later in 2026.

And EVs sold to individual consumers (unlike private companies) is 97%.
 
It's what Stout and Myriad – and sometimes you yourself – never grow tired of repeating:
That's because it's true. People just love the benefits of burning fossil fuels, they're what made modern life possible and still do. It's unfortunate that the consumer demand is driving fossil fuel use idea doesn't sit well with Eco-Commie campaigners who are unable to see the world in anything other that oppressed vs. oppressor, aggressor vs victim. But hey, write yourself a Get Out of Jail Free card when you're booking that flight to a tropical destination and try to shift the blame of those carbon emissions to Big Somethingorother. If it makes you feel better.

Riddle me this, ecowarriors...Why did Greta Thunberg cross the Atlantic twice using wind power when a jet plane would have been much more convenient? Oh you know the answer, she was modelling the behaviour she hoped others would emulate. She was trying to reduce her carbon footprint. Then she tossed you all on the ash heap of history when she realized you were all full of ◊◊◊◊ and had no intentions of getting involved in saving the planet outside of complaining and moved on to something else.

Face it, people buy and do what they want. Buy a huge truck? Because they want one. Buy and EV, because they want one. Fly to the Caribbean...you get the picture.
 
I'm sure we all remember The Maldives when they famously and hilariously held a cabinet meeting underwater to protest and raise awareness about how their jet fuel based high end tourism economy was destroying the planet.

Well it seems they've given up on the whining and turned to AI to solve their disappearing beaches problem.

NYT. Archive link.


Looks like it's America's turn to save the world, your move China.
 

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