Global warming...debunked?

[Hallo Alfie]

Please note how Alfie ignored the information he requested, and I provided.

Willful ignorance, the real fuel of the climate debate...

Talk about wilful ignorance!
I said I either didn't understand or it didn't make sense to me. How is that "ignoring the information" you provided?

Which causes, specifically, do you think explain current global warming better than AWG, and what specific evidence makes you think that?

Don't know. What caused the earths temperatures to changeover the past (say) 20 million years?

So you are tying to argue that if there is even a single ice-cube in water that has been ice free only once in the last 120 000 years it can’t be warming? As usual your strawman arguments do not make a lot of sense. The artic has a clearly documented warming trend and a clearly documented loss of sea ice, end of story.

I am not arguing anything, I have asked an honest question because it does not make sense to my lay mind.

You are stating (as Megaladon is implying) that I am denying what you guys are saying here - that the earth is warming. Not at all. Remember I believe the earth is warming, I do not deny that and never have.

The arctic has a warming trend - agreed.
A documented loss of sea ice - seems right given it is warming.
But how is it the ice has spread? Presumably the areas that now have ice where it wasn't present before have warmed also - so how is it there is ice there?

I also said to drop it as I see it as more of an anomaly in my mind - I dispute nothing on this and simply ask a genuine question, yet you and others act as if I do.

Typical groupthink mentality imho. Attack and stereotype any opposition (even when they agree?)

Amazing!

Well, I guess it's 50/50 then!!

Maybe. That's what I would like to explore on another thread, however no-one seems willing to discuss the possibility.

 

[Megalodon]

Talk about wilful ignorance!
I said I either didn't understand or it didn't make sense to me. How is that "ignoring the information" you provided?

Our interaction in this thread:

Because the planet keeps agreeing with the modellers...

What!?!
Show us please.

[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/thum_2814819f0c75c420.jpg[/qimg]

and a good read

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/12/updates-to-model-data-comparisons/

You ignored that post and went on failing to understand other issues.

You are stating (as Megaladon is implying) that I am denying what you guys are saying here...

I told you before, it's your language. Learn it, cherish it.

 

[Hallo Alfie]

So what you are saying is because I don't understand something I am ignoring it?

Wow!

"My language"? - again, I don't understand.

 

[Megalodon]

So what you are saying is because I don't understand something I am ignoring it?

No, as I have shown in very small words and examples in my previous post, I made a point, you asked for evidence, I provided it, and you ignored the evidence.

Wow!

Indeed! I can't imagine how you manage in a supermarket...

"My language"? - again, I don't understand.

Reading comprehension classes might be in order.

Please keep the tone civil. Thank you.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: LibraryLady

 

[Hallo Alfie]

No, as I have shown in very small words and examples in my previous post, I made a point, you asked for evidence, I provided it, and you ignored the evidence.

Indeed! I can't imagine how you manage in a supermarket...

Reading comprehension classes might be in order.

Thanks again - as usual you have been very helpful.

 

[a_unique_person]

As usual, Dr Inferno has the facts.

http://denialdepot.blogspot.com/2010/01/this-week-of-global-cooling.html

Using my technical skills I have extracted a cooling signal from the Japanese Meteorological Agency data. Witness the proof of the coming Ice Age.

Also in Blog News this week:
A previously no good IPCC bastard of a scientist turned overnight into a internationally renowned nobel prize winning scientist by denouncing manmade global warming as false, fraudulent and a lying lie of a religion. I paraphrase slightly. Dr Professor Lord Mojib Latif also predicted an ice age would hit us within hours, much to the dismay of warmists! His change of stance appears to be a direct result of ClimateGate. You won't hear any of this in the so-called "reputable" media.

More and More scientists are becoming "deniers" with each passing hour. Within weeks there will only be Gavin and Michael Mann left and they will be wandering about their vacant ivory tower trying to figure out where everyone has gone.

 

[Megalodon]

Thanks again - as usual you have been very helpful.

Somewhere, a village is missing you...