Global Warming Debate: Both Viewpoints Irrelevant

[Bill Thompson]

Bill, there's a zillion things wrong with colonizing outer space at the moment, the first being we STILL haven't digitalized human intelligence, and suggesting we terraform other planets is the height of absurdity.

A space elevator might be a great idea, but in and of itself, it does not make outer space hospitable to humans, and there's other problems with the idea (it's going to be pretty epic if terrorists ever hit the structure with airplanes... just sayin')

One of the leaders of the Space Elevator came to talk where I work. I am a big fan and it is doable.

 

[Bill Thompson]

THe Global Warming craze is all about selling books. Also, the press lies, exaggerates and even prints retelling of hearsay all the time. If you go to the source, the mystery dissolves.

Once an idea catches on because of fear, or a desire to believe, it becomes like a runaway train that seems to have its own life. People like to learn and repeat but they rarely sit down and study and think for themselves.

For example, there is no Bermuta Triangle. Global Warming sure smells like the same sort of hog wash to me.

I suggest everyone get and watch this video regarding critical thinking and how it pays to go to the source of the data and evaluate it for yourselves:

http://www.amazon.com/Nova-Bermuda-Triangle-VHS/dp/6304468741

If you go to the source, the mystery dissolves and often so does the craze.

 

[varwoche]

For example, there is no Bermuta Triangle. Global Warming sure smells like the same sort of hog wash to me.

This of course is an unmitigated crock of anti-science zealotry.

If you go to the source, the mystery dissolves and often so does the craze.

Sources like the experts at NASA? NOAA? Scripps? Woods Hole? Livermore Labs? MIT? Hadley Centre? Harvard? Yale? Stanford? Cal Tech? Rutherford Appleton Lab? Max Planck Institute? British Antarctic Survey? US National Snow and Ice Data Center? NCAR? Potsdam? Columbia? Wellington Antarctic Research Centre? Naval Research Laboratory? U Bern? Lancaster University? Durham University? Danish Meteorological Institute?

So, are these studies amongst the sources you suggest we check? Or are they just trying to sell books?

 

[The_Animus]

Sorry I disappeared. Finals week

Technological improvements do help increase efficiency and reduce waste. However we've created a society where the entire goal seems to be based around producing as much as we can in order to fill and unlimited amount of wants/needs. So when technology improves to allow more products for the same resources (whether energy or material) we don't consume the same amount and pocket the resource savings. Instead we consume more. It's just what we do. A good example of this is electricity. We constantly make improvements in our ability to generate, store, and transfer energy, yet we need to build more power plants to keep up with rising consumption and population.

We rely so heavily on the idea that many problems will work themselves out as technology improves, and maybe they will, but I think we need to do more than that. I think we need to figure out a fair way to set up worldwide population controls and we have to make efforts to reduce unnecessary waste and excessive consumption.

 

[Bill Thompson]

This of course is an unmitigated crock of anti-science zealotry.

Sources like the experts at NASA? NOAA? Scripps? Woods Hole? Livermore Labs? MIT? Hadley Centre? Harvard? Yale? Stanford? Cal Tech? Rutherford Appleton Lab? Max Planck Institute? British Antarctic Survey? US National Snow and Ice Data Center? NCAR? Potsdam? Columbia? Wellington Antarctic Research Centre? Naval Research Laboratory? U Bern? Lancaster University? Durham University? Danish Meteorological Institute?

What are you saying? NASA says the Earth is cooling. Specificaly, the data provided by NASA shows that the earth has been cooling.

 

[GreyICE]

What are you saying? NASA says the Earth is cooling. Specificaly, the data provided by NASA shows that the earth has been cooling.

Wow. And now we're in fantasy world.

Since NASA says it, Bill, I'm sure you can provide links. Oh, hold on. Not everything you read is on the internet, it was in a journal/magazine/newspaper, we should take your word for it because you remember it clearly...

 

[varwoche]

What are you saying? NASA says the Earth is cooling. Specificaly, the data provided by NASA shows that the earth has been cooling.

Rather than echoing some idiotic blog or another, I suggest that a good way to find out what NASA says is to -- what a concept -- check with NASA.