Glenn Beck is now beyond drooling-raving-on-the-streetcorner insane

[JudeBrando]

Ummmmmmmm, that he has brought on a writer for World Net Daily as a consultant for his show? Maybe? Possibly? Have you ever read (red) World Net Daily?

Maybe possibly what? Yes, I am somewhat familiar with World Net Daily and look there occasionally. I look everywhere. Do you always reject all differing opinions from current consideration?

Two words: Sample size. That one episode may lack the claimed "beyond drooling-raving-on-the-streetcorner insanity" does not mean it is not present in other episodes.

Here's today then:
http://www.watchglennbeck.com/
Show me the "insanity," or are you guys actually just showing your own prejudice?

Where have you been for the past couple of years?

Around.

Have you read about the kook CT's that he has been pushing?

Read about them from who? I've heard some of what he says and he usually builds something of a case to what he says. I don't see any "insanity."

Like his Teddy Roosevelt was an evil leftist rants?

Thinking Roosevelt was a lefty and objecting to some of his policies and actions is "insane"?

Or some of his wacky history lessons?

What "wacky" history?

And picking a single episode is pretty weak. You have to look at Beck's overall record, and his overall record is one of pushing crazy?

Lefties say that about all conservatives. The bigger the reach of that conservative, the greater their denigration of that conservative. Always. It's extremely intolerant of them.

Or are you one of these guys who defends anybody on the Political Right no matter what they Do?

I am an equal opportunity offender and I am loyal to no person and no party. I also question questioners.

ANd, btw, his remarks on Reform Jews on Wendesday's show has raised a storm of controversy

Btw, so what? Should he stop being "controversial"? What is not controversial?

 

[I Am The Scum]

Well if you Google beck crazy, then you get this.

Oh, and have we forgotten Cathy already?

 

[Corsair 115]

Here's today then:
http://www.watchglennbeck.com/
Show me the "insanity," or are you guys actually just showing your own prejudice?

Well, now your sample size is up to two. How many shows had Beck done in total? I suspect two episodes is but a vanishingly small percentage of that figure, making your two episode sample size all but meaningless.

 

[leftysergeant]

Here's today then:
http://www.watchglennbeck.com/
Show me the "insanity," or are you guys actually just showing your own prejudice?

Well, in the second video on that page, we see him getting all smarmy with Tabitha Hale and commisserating with her over her having been "assaulted" by some union member after she shoved her camera right up into his face whilke he was trying to talk to some retard from Freedom Works.

The punk has a distorted sense of what constitutes assault.

 

[GreyArea]

Watching this segment from Beck's TV show -- specifically 1:01 to 1:03, but elsewhere as well -- made me realize that he's been sounding like a cross between the Joker and Beetlejuice.

Has he always switched voices and personalities like that?

 

[I Ratant]

Watching this segment from Beck's TV show -- specifically 1:01 to 1:03, but elsewhere as well -- made me realize that he's been sounding like a cross between the Joker and Beetlejuice.

Has he always switched voices and personalities like that?

.
He's a gifted comic actor.
His gift is that he says stupid things in ways that the stupid people that hang on his every pronouncement can identify with.

 

[dudalb]

I guess that Major conservative figures like Bill Kristol and Rick Lowry are calling Beck crazy passed JudeBrando by.

 

[Skeptic]

Crazy sells

Exactly. I suspect Ann Coulter is the same way. Her first books were unfair and annoying, but her later ones give "hollow moon reptilians" conspiracies a run for their money. The problem is that when your reputation is based on being extreme, you always have to be more extreme to keep your audience.

 

[dudalb]

Exactly. I suspect Ann Coulter is the same way. Her first books were unfair and annoying, but her later ones give "hollow moon reptilians" conspiracies a run for their money. The problem is that when your reputation is based on being extreme, you always have to be more extreme to keep your audience.

You are just a slimy liberal who is trying to discredit Glenn Beck.....

 

[MattusMaximus]

Exactly. I suspect Ann Coulter is the same way. Her first books were unfair and annoying, but her later ones give "hollow moon reptilians" conspiracies a run for their money. The problem is that when your reputation is based on being extreme, you always have to be more extreme to keep your audience.

This ^^^

Fortunately, as the information on Beck's declining ratings points out, it seems that as a demagogue like Beck gets more extreme, he marginalizes more & more people. Because, even though I may disagree with the political views of many in the Fox News demographic, there aren't that many of them who are ◊◊◊◊◊◊* crazy.

And that's a good thing.

I think the day Fox yanks Beck off the air, I'll dance a jig

 

[MattusMaximus]

You are just a slimy liberal who is trying to discredit Glenn Beck.....

Or, he's a reasonable conservative who is willing to call out those on this side of the aisle...

Nah, he's a slimy liberal

 

[tyr_13]

They are going down, bigtime.
In this case it is about the ratings. It's not about the actual income Beck gets for Fox, that has never been that much, few of the big money advertisers want to be identified with Beck and don't buy ads on his show, but Beck's one time big ratings did act as what is called in the TV business a "Locomotive" his large ratings spilled over to other Fox shows, but since his ratings are dropping He seems to be vulnerable.
And that several of the more mainstream conservative writers he is fighting with have a lot of influence with Fox, I think his career elevator is going down.

In retail this is known as a 'loss-leader'. You loose money on selling, say turkey, yet make it on gravy and cookers. It's what gets people in the stores. Beck has been like that for FOX, but now it's not so clear it's helping. Many people, even conservatives, avoid FOX for no other reason than Beck is on it.

 

[Joey McGee]

Beck is that kid everyone was mean to in grade school come back to haunt us.

 

[dudalb]

This ^^^

Fortunately, as the information on Beck's declining ratings points out, it seems that as a demagogue like Beck gets more extreme, he marginalizes more & more people. Because, even though I may disagree with the political views of many in the Fox News demographic, there aren't that many of them who are ◊◊◊◊◊◊* crazy.

And that's a good thing.

I think the day Fox yanks Beck off the air, I'll dance a jig

Yeah, people are cacthing on.
To quote Walter Matthau in the final scene of "A Face In The Crowd"'

"We always catch on to them in the end. That is one of the good things about America".

 

[dudalb]

In retail this is known as a 'loss-leader'. You loose money on selling, say turkey, yet make it on gravy and cookers. It's what gets people in the stores. Beck has been like that for FOX, but now it's not so clear it's helping. Many people, even conservatives, avoid FOX for no other reason than Beck is on it.

The term "Locomotive" is what people in Show Biz say about a show that might not make it's cost back, even if you can get big advertisers, but gets such big ratings that it is a overall win for the Network.

 

[MikeSun5]

I think the day Fox yanks Beck off the air, I'll dance a jig

I don't know, dude.... imagine how over-the-top the next guy will have to be to replace him.

Cool avatar, btw.

 

[Puppycow]

Here's Beck's Wednesday, February 23rd, 2011 tv show:

http://www.watchglennbeck.com/video...-23-2011-richard-trumpka-and-the-white-house/

39:55 minutes, no commercials, but you get a little free live Obama thrown in.

Just so we can see where you're coming from, please show us some examples of his obvious "beyond drooling-raving-on-the-streetcorner insanity" from this episode. What do you find so unacceptable, objectionable and/or so very troubling here?

I've already provided examples. Read the thread.

 

[JudeBrando]

I've already provided examples. Read the thread.

A bit snippy already, aren't you? No, no you did not. Here, let me help you read what you said in your thread:

It's hardly worth commenting on every stupid thing Glenn Beck says anymore, but lately he has really gone way, way, way too far down the rabbit hole of his own fevered imagination. It's getting to the point, like with Helen Thomas, that I'm starting to wonder how a major news network can still justify employing this man. Even mainstream conservatives like Bill Kristol of the Weekly Standard and Rich Lowry of National Review have noticed and are starting to speak out (finally!).

Just one of many recent examples: Beck has a man on his show who literally claims to be a prophet, and who wrote an article in World Nut Daily comparing Obama to the Antichrist. And he's presenting this guy as an expert on "the end times" and claiming that the protests in Wisconsin have something to do with the end times.

You gave one "example." Your "example" was not what Beck said, but an example of how Rachel Maddow characterized and portrayed what Beck said. Of course, you are free to rely on second-hand antagonistic opinions if that is how you form your thoughts and opinions. I would simply like you to be specific and make your point yourself and not rely on what biased commentators say. Can you do that? Here and now, I am interested in the due diligence or lack thereof in your analysis, not Rachel Maddow's.

Do you ever watch or listen and consider what Beck actually says or do you watch or listen and consider only those that only speak against Beck?

Since you obviously have so very much to choose from among "every stupid thing Glenn Beck says anymore," can you please give real examples of what you say is "beyond drooling-raving-on-the-streetcorner insane" said by Beck that are "way, way, way too far down the rabbit hole of his own fevered imagination" and why you say it is so, or just admit that your only purpose is the demonization of one who you differ with politically, if that is the case?

 

[Corsair 115]

For examples of Beck's, ah, more off-the-wall theories and delivery, I refer you to any number of The Daily Show episodes where Beck is skewered for precisely those things (with clips of the man himself).

 

[Dorian Gray]

Why fight it, Jude? You know you're just splitting hairs. Beck draws crappy conclusions and thinks that using a chalkboard and props somehow makes him more qualified to comment on people than, say, Gallagher or Carrot Top.

Let me help you understand that you quoted a single post from puppycow, and then attacked him for giving a single example. Nice double standard you have there. Maybe you should actually read the THREAD, like puppycow suggested, and not cherry pick posts in a completely intellectually dishonest way.