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"Ghost Hunters" Revisited

Ghosthunters

Well, I personally do not believe there are ghosts floating around, but I will admit that I do enjoy the show sometimes.

Not that I believe they have ever found any evidence for "ghosts", but it is just hilarious to watch sometimes, and the "evidence" that they come up with. I still remember watching Don Knotts, in "The ghost and Mr. Chicken". It kinda reminds me of that sometimes, when the dudes get frightened and run away.

I do hear stories sometimes that are puzzling. This afternoon my brother related a story about two local ladies who live in our community, who had sold their old home to a bank. Well, I knew they had moved out into a new house some time back, so I commented that it was good they had moved out. Well, my brother told me that they had only lived in the new house for a short time and had moved out because they thought it was haunted are something. Supposedly they had saw strange things around the house, and one of the ladies had been shoved down the hall by something. Now I know both of these ladies and know they are not nutjobs. And they lived in their previous home and never saw any kind of ghosts, etc. So I am wondering what is up with this. I plan on going and talking to them about what they really saw, and find out more about the shoving incident. Hey, maybe I can be a ghostbuster!

Sounds like a job for Ghosthunters!
 
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What I know

Being in the field for many years, as a researcher I watch this show and see nothing but ego's.

Just wanted to chime in.. CDL mentioned the "GhostDivas"... well, I am one of them and just wanted to clarify something. We are not like stereotypical ghost hunters. We have put in many hours "ghost hunting" and we have came to the conclusion that the majority of ghost hunters out there are full of crap.
I used to believe like the others... but no more.

The past few years I have researched ghost hunters and found that a haunting is what you make of it. I have personally witnessed a couple apparitions, even had a flashlight smacked out of my hand but today I do not feel that ghosts are common. So, the GhostDivas will NEVER be on TV without a reason. We are not loved by ghost hunters and we take pride in having a large following. We know things and are pulling the plug and people do not like that. I teach common sense ghost hunting and I am happy to say that everyone leaves my seminars as a skeptic and knowledge to call BS on victims of hauntings and ghost hunters.

The ego's behind the show are amazing. The so called evidence that makes the viewers skin crawl are repeat images and hold amazing similarities. I would not state that TAPS if creating the hoax, but the production companies have reason. The shadow's they are video taping are all too similar. The caped crusader has stricken 3 times in my opinion. I have watched the footage and like I stated... just too many similarities caught on film. We must remember this is a world of the unexplained right? So why do the figures look the same? To me, this explains enough.
There is footage of a hoax at the QueenMary. "someone" was not so clever while attempting to ruffle the bedding. The video camera stopped so the ghost hunters proudly stated it to be a hoax. I do not subscribe to their news or anything, but on the show they just laughed it off and did not try to find out "who" was behind the hoax. To me, that proved that the show is staged and there is someone who is trying desperatly to provide paranormal action or as I see it... good ratings.

This show has gone from average guys fitting pipe in a basement to ghost hunting hero's in 2 seasons. The ego's are huge and the money is pouring. We can look forward to celebrities attending their ghost hunts and action figures. The first season they gained slight respect, the second season they gained fans. 3rd season... um... we will see more shadows and moving furniture.
 
GhostDiva said:
I have personally witnessed a couple apparitions, even had a flashlight smacked out of my hand but today I do not feel that ghosts are common.
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What's the reason for you giving these incidents a paranormal explanation?
You don't sound too sceptical. How can people leave your seminars as sceptics if you tell them you've seen spooks?
 
sat556 said:
What's the reason for you giving these incidents a paranormal explanation?
You don't sound too sceptical. How can people leave your seminars as sceptics if you tell them you've seen spooks?
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I am skeptical but yet I have seen things that I say are paranormal. Paranormal means "beyond normal"... I do not preach my personal sightings. I started researching the unknown after living in a house where a lot of strange things went on that I could not explain, and still can not explain. But being in countless hours of rumored haunted places... where people are running amuck with ghost fever I have learned that true paranormal events are very very rare or, not impossible.

In life I do not hold the impossible attitude. Anything is possible, for whatever reason it may be my circumstances are unexplainable/paranormal.

I have watched people throw out all aspects of common sense when it comes to investigating. Research has turned into "hunts" and adrenaline has been replaced with false psychic sensations and proof of "ghosts". It is a load of crap. People who take my seminars do leave with a sense of dignity and their common sense restored when it comes to ghosts. I get emails from guests who state "how foolish we were to think that was paranormal"... this is my goal.

Just for the record, im not here to defend myself just to offer another opinion. I have been in the field I have witness first hand what most published skeptics have not. I am here to help.
 
The current "ghost hunting" craze is similar to the seance craze of the 1920's. It is a fad, fueled in large part by TV exposure. Google "paranormal investigators" for a virtual woo circus. For some, "ghost hunting" is a source of fun social interaction and cheap thrills. For others, it's their 15 minutes of fame.
 
GhostDiva said:
I have watched people throw out all aspects of common sense when it comes to investigating. Research has turned into "hunts" and adrenaline has been replaced with false psychic sensations and proof of "ghosts". It is a load of crap.
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I couldn't agree more with most of that. However, I feel the 'research' side of things has to be seperated out. For example, being called in to a haunted house by private clients should be done differently to experimental research, and ghost hunting different again.
What I mean is, that either we are trying to prove that there are such things as ghosts, in which case ghost hunting is the way to go, or trying to show that normal explanations fit, thus investigating, or finding alternate explanations for the sightings and reports, being research. I don't personally think all three can fit into one area.
I have recently started to define myself as a 'ghost hunter'. I feel I have wasted years on investigating (my definition above I'm using), and am, to be straight, bored with going to help people and finding they are irritated when I discover that they are being haunted by the central heating... What bugs me is that they don't like that finding, and start to embellish their story in a desperate attempt to give it some paranormal angle.
I am sick of the snobbery involved in this now, and I belive a lot of it is due to the popularity of the 'hobby', which has been broadened by the tv shows. If people want to go out and have a bit of fun scaring themselves, go for it, but the trouble is that suddenly everybody is an expert. Nobody is, even those of us that have been doing this for years, as at the moment this subject (in the paranormal sense) has no explanations.
My personal view now is, that until somebody actually catches a ghost (we can argue definitions all day :D) on camera maybe, and can make this event replicate, then it's no good saying that these things are spirits of the dead, recordings, or made out of ectoplasm, whichever it is that floats your boat. That is the kind of woo crap I am sick of seeing all over the net. It casts us all in the same light.

Did I rant? :duck:
 
Nope not at all. I agree with you. I have evolved in my "research" unlike a lot of people who get to a point to where they feel they are ready to be famous.
I have had my share of media mentions and I am sure I will have more. But I will never cloud my earned judgement.
I chimed in on this thread because of the "GhostDiva" comment. If and when you ever see or hear us in any media... we will be calling BS on hauntings & teams who claim extraordinary methods to collect evidence.

Most of the paranormal teams out there, even those who claim to debunk are out looking for ghosts. Deep inside they want proof and that little smidge of "want" overrides a lot of common sense. Even with the "taps" team.
They debunk when it is easy. Teams do not pay attention to people who are there, the stories and the belief thats behind them.
 
I chimed in on this thread because of the "GhostDiva" comment. If and when you ever see or hear us in any media...
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Yes, I made the comment...I'm afraid I had your Ghost Divas mixed up with the Girly Ghosthunters and Ghost Hotties....both of which are TV concepts in production or in development.
 
CLD said:
Yes, I made the comment...I'm afraid I had your Ghost Divas mixed up with the Girly Ghosthunters and Ghost Hotties....both of which are TV concepts in production or in development.
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Ghost Hotties? :boggled: :D
 
Your desire to educate people with common sense sounds sincere, Ghost Diva, and more power to you in that regard. However TAPS has already claimed this ideological territory. Their constant drumbeat of PR promotes their common sense approach to investigation, they openly diss the majority of ghost hunting groups as silly, and they claim most of their own investigations turn up cold. Of course we know it's a sham, but the public doesn't. I'm not sure how you can differentiate your message from theirs.
 
I think part of the problem with "Ghost Hunters" is that skeptics don't take it seriously enough to really fight against it, and believers are so enamored they never question.

Unfortunately, I view the show as not only ridiculous but also irresponsible. Why does everyone have to crank out nonsense?
 
I think Remie's site is an excellent start.

I'll post the url after this post....my 15th! :)
 
Hey, thanks for linking me up, CLD :)

Thanks for visiting the site, sat, and the e-mail. We're still just getting started. The site's only been around for nine days, and we've already gotten a lot more traffic than I ever would've imagined.

More footage will come with better equipment, when we can afford it. I have an EMF detector coming in the mail, too. That should be exciting ;)
 
Common sense approach can be varied per individual.

The difference in approach is that Im not invading properties for the sole reasons of a rumored ghost.
 
Thanks, occam! It's being updated daily with more information, and help is pouring in from people everywhere. (New logo, new main photo, new magician contacts). With any luck whatsoever, it'll catch on where it counts :)
 
Go Remie!

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