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Ghislaine Maxwell

I hope her stay now will be more uncomfortable by the fact she will always be surrounded by people who are determined to prevent her from going out the way the coward Epstein did.

If my wanting her to suffer seems punitive - it is.

Working for years at a sexual assault crisis center, I saw and spoke to the victims of her and Epstein's type of entertainment.
 
Good!I am very pleased to see the jury were not hoodwinked by her "poor me" act!

I would like to see her get the maximum of 40 years, but I expect she will more likely get something in the range 15 - 25. Whichever, she's 60 now, so she will spend her retirement years behind bars and will be an old woman by the time she gets out... if she gets out.

ETA: And if she didn't like the conditions under which she was incarcerated before the trial, I have some bad news for her.... they are about to get a whole lot worse.
 
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Fast Eddie B said:
On Twitter, it’s been mentioned that she could have her sentence reduced by providing evidence/testify against others. Think Alan Dershowitz, Prince Andrew and even Trump.

Details on how that might work here: https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_35
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1. Some very high profile people might well be starting to crap themselves soon.

2. Such development would definitely paint a target on Maxwell's back.
 
smartcooky said:
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ETA: And if she didn't like the conditions under which she was incarcerated before the trial, I have some bad news for her.... they are about to get a whole lot worse.
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I dunno. If they send her to a "Club Fed," as they typically do for non-violent offenders, especially women, it won't be luxury, but it'll be tolerable.
https://www.forbes.com/2009/07/13/b...al-finance-lockups_slide.html?sh=2223c9ec3fb6
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...what-its-really-like-inside-club-fed-prisons/
 
smartcooky said:
1. Some very high profile people might well be starting to crap themselves soon.

2. Such development would definitely paint a target on Maxwell's back.
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Maybe. But if there were serious allegations to be made about Epstein's celebrity pals, wouldn't we likely have heard about them by now? If somebody was assaulted by Bill Clinton, Alan Dershowitz etc., why would they keep quiet, especially with a big bucket of settlement money on the table?
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/09/jeffrey-epstein-fund-gave-sex-crime-accusers-nearly-125-million.html
 
Bob001 said:
Maybe. But if there were serious allegations to be made about Epstein's celebrity pals, wouldn't we likely have heard about them by now? If somebody was assaulted by Bill Clinton, Alan Dershowitz etc., why would they keep quiet, especially with a big bucket of settlement money on the table?
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/09/jeffrey-epstein-fund-gave-sex-crime-accusers-nearly-125-million.html
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Maybe because, as long as they thought she might not be found guilty, they could kid themselves that none of it was going to come out. In this case, I don't think we will ever know if Maxwell was offered a plea deal in return for testimony. It is not uncommon for the Feds to take one high profile person all the way to trial, and then upon a guilty verdict, offer deals for shorter sentences to get the goods on other high profile people.

I think Maxwell genuinely does not think she did anything wrong, and didn't believe for a moment that she was going to be found guilty. The Feds have a load of leverage now that she faces the prospect of spending the rest of her life in jail.
 
Bob001 said:
I dunno. If they send her to a "Club Fed," as they typically do for non-violent offenders, especially women, it won't be luxury, but it'll be tolerable.
https://www.forbes.com/2009/07/13/b...al-finance-lockups_slide.html?sh=2223c9ec3fb6
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...what-its-really-like-inside-club-fed-prisons/
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First, they are talking about white collar criminals - you think child trafficking is a non-violent, white collar offense?

Second, I don't know whether she will remain in solitary, but I don't think she will enjoy being in general population either. Many of those women in the are hard as nails; they will see her white-privileged arse as a target!
 
It is somewhat a relief she didn't 'get away with it' as it were. However, I didn't think the prosecution case was strong (ignoring all the media stuff before during and after, outside of the trial) but the defence was even worse. Calling the accusers 'golddiggers' and of having false memories was not going to endear her to the jury.

It's great she won't get to spend her ill gotten millions from Epstein. The case is so-overhyped. Whilst being the supplier what about the demand side? Why aren't these fat rich sweaty guys who did the raping being prosecuted?

The picture of Maxwell with her tits hanging out massaging Epstein's foot was just plain silly. Evidence she is a slut. Far worse than being a rapist!
 
smartcooky said:
Maybe because, as long as they thought she might not be found guilty, they could kid themselves that none of it was going to come out. In this case, I don't think we will ever know if Maxwell was offered a plea deal in return for testimony. It is not uncommon for the Feds to take one high profile person all the way to trial, and then upon a guilty verdict, offer deals for shorter sentences to get the goods on other high profile people.

I think Maxwell genuinely does not think she did anything wrong, and didn't believe for a moment that she was going to be found guilty. The Feds have a load of leverage now that she faces the prospect of spending the rest of her life in jail.
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I think Maxwell's first and most obvious move at this point will be to appeal, which requires she maintain that she is not guilty at all, and that means nothing coming out about anyone anytime soon.

And anyway, after the guilty verdict is usually far too late for any deals. Reduced sentences are offered in exchange for cooperation and a guilty plea. You don't reject a plea deal, lose, and then get to negotiate again.
 
The BBC decided that Alan Dershowtiz should be their legal analyst for their coverage.

I know lawyers are all scumbags, but surely there was someone available who wasn't directly implicated as being a child rapist associate of Epstein and Maxwell.

Alan Dershowitz, Accused of Involvement in Epstein Sex Ring, Analyzes Ghislaine Maxwell Guilty Verdict
BBC inexplicably brought on the Harvard professor, who has been accused of (and denied) sexually assaulting Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre

After Ghislaine Maxwell was found guilty Wednesday on five of six sex trafficking counts for her role in procuring young girls for her former boyfriend and serial sex offender Jeffrey Epstein to abuse, BBC News took to the airwaves to analyze the proceedings. And they brought on Alan Dershowitz, notably named by Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre as one of the men (she has also claimed Prince Andrew sexually assaulted her) she said Epstein and Maxwell allegedly forced her to have sex with repeatedly when she was underage. Dershowitz has denied the allegations.

Introduced only as a “constitutional lawyer” by the BBC host without any further context or noting any conflict of interest, Dershowitz appeared to use the opportunity to defend his defamation countersuit while questioning Giuffre’s credibility.
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https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/alan-dershowitz-bbc-news-ghislaine-maxwell-guilty-verdict-1277136/

Fox News had Dershowitz on, but you'd think the BBC would hold itself to higher standards.
 
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LondonJohn said:
Frankly, as soon as the jury started requesting so much judicial guidance/clarifications and extending its deliberation, Maxwell's lawyers must have known the gig was most probably up.

From waaaaay on the outside, and from not much more than a passing interest in the trial, I can't see any immediate reason to grant an appeal. But obviously I fully expect Maxwell to spend another few hundred thousand dollars of her inheritance to file an appeal.
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i.e. Mirror group's pension fund.....
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
The BBC decided that Alan Dershowtiz should be their legal analyst for their coverage.

I know lawyers are all scumbags, but surely there was someone available who wasn't directly implicated as being a child rapist associate of Epstein and Maxwell.



https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/alan-dershowitz-bbc-news-ghislaine-maxwell-guilty-verdict-1277136/

Fox News had Dershowitz on, but you'd think the BBC would hold itself to higher standards.
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It's pretty weird that he would even want to blather about the case like this. Seems almost Streisand Effecty.

I noticed some people on social media were saying, "OMG! The BBC had Alan Dershowitz on!"

Replies were, "Who is Alan Dershowitz?"

So now, even people who have never heard of him will link him to Maxwell and Epstein.

Seems bizarrre for all involved.

Of course, tinfoil hatters think he's sending coded messages to Maxwell because she will be watched BBC in her cell. Seems a bit of a stretch.
 
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