I suspect that even if the prosecution are not really convinced she is a flight risk, being able to keep her (over a year now) in solitary confinement in prison will be part of the negotiations for a plea deal. Plea deals are more likely when the accused are in jail than when out on bail.
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smartcooky
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Otherwise known as, "if you want out, we need names and dates!"
I still think she could put a lot of very powerful people behind bars! Those people will be crapping themselves!
Sadly this never seems to happen.
There is a wealth of expectation but teflon almost always delivers.
I think because of covid, conditions can be very restricted. No association. Minimal exercise. Meals in cells. Remembering that at this point she is an innocent person. During time on suicide watch lights are kept on 24 hours.
Having read through all this, it seems people are somewhat overstating the ability of non state actors to move a tracked individual out of the US during covid lock down. As said if she had wanted to flee she could have gone to France before all this happened. France would not have extradited her, and the traditional French view of the sort of activities she is accused of would have been a gallic shrug of shoulder and comment on anglo-saxon prudity. Of course for all I know her arrest could have been precipitated by an on-line search for Air France flights.
To add to conspiracy theories, one I am surprised has not been floated with regards to her marriage, does the US still have the rule that spouses can not be required to give evidence against each other? Perhaps the guiltier party is not GM but whoever married her? Perhaps why the husband is willing to put all his assets up to get her out of jail? Of course it could be true love. perhaps keeping her locked up is for her own protection?
Gord_in_Toronto
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More. And more to come?
Ghislaine Maxwell Charged With Sex Trafficking of 14-Year-Old Girl
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/29/nyregion/ghislaine-maxwell-sex-trafficking-epstein.html
Ghislaine Maxwell Charged With Sex Trafficking of 14-Year-Old Girl
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/29/nyregion/ghislaine-maxwell-sex-trafficking-epstein.html
smartcooky
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She seems to be a very nasty and vile piece of work. If she is found guilty (which seems very likely) I hope she gets the maximum penalty (35 years) with no remission.
If she thinks she's being hard done by now, then she is going to be in for a very rude shock if she ends up somewhere like Danbury or Hazleton.
If she thinks she's being hard done by now, then she is going to be in for a very rude shock if she ends up somewhere like Danbury or Hazleton.
New suit says Epstein threatened to feed one of his victims to alligators.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/jeffrey-epstein-threatened-feed-woman-223709460.html
Vixen
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No being funny but 35 years for procuring prostitutes for the purpose of sex seems a bit harsh to me. OK, so several were between the ages of 14 to 17 but they all seem to have gone along to Epstein's mansion willingly and returned time and again for the $200 per session pay out. Yes, it is a heinous crime to procure underage persons for prostitution but is it really on a par with murder in terms of sentencing?
It’s worse.
smartcooky
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Yup!
Indeed, that's the maximum, and what Maxwell did is about as bad as it gets as far as procuring minors for sex.
It wasn't just a few, it was dozens over a long period. She was the organizer of a sex-trafficking, sex slavery ring - she procured three girls a day for Epstein alone, girls as young as 13. If you aren't going to sentence the maximum for the worst examples in a given class of crime, what is the point of the maximum?
She also didn't just procure girls, she sexually assaulted them as well, under the guise of "training" them.
Here, have a read...if you have the stomach for it!
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/31/ghislaine-maxwell-underage-girls-sex-jeffrey-epstein
Of course, she maybe could mitigate that if she rats out everyone she knows that "benefited" from Epstein's vile predilection for under-aged girls. That 35 years should absolutely be held over her head like the proverbial Sword of Damocles.
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No it is not as bad as murder.
Refer to Planigale's Gallic shrug post for another shading. I am surprised that this thread draws out such punishing vehemence in male posters.
smartcooky
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Do you think serial rapists should be jailed, even though they don't kill anyone
Just asking!
Yes they should be.
The comparison is with actual killing and sentencing and I thought Vixen was right to draw a distinction. Maxwell was way off the rails in a raft of ways but let us see what malevolence can be truly established.
How does it compare with the maximum sentence for murder?
A person murdered can suffer no longer, a person sexually abused, raped, or sold into any form of slavery has to live with that for the rest of their life.
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It's very difficult to draw any straight lines between one crime and another, it's all a fudge really.
In this instance the sheer numbers of victims involved have to have an effect, don't they? If she'd done it once then 35 years might seem a little excessive. But 35 years is way less than a year per victim isn't it?
I agree but it does seem a common opinion that murder is the worse of the worse crime.
Agreed.
The victims were not prostitutes. They were too young to consent, and the evidence is overwhelming that they were intimidated and confused by master predators. You are blaming the victims in the worst way.
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