Germans get political asylum in the US

[Chaos]

I'm taking my ball and going home!
Come now, Chaos. You're the one who told me that German Nazis were a problem. There's really no point in acting offended, I'm just taking you at your word.

You´re the one who keeps misstating what I write.

 

[r0ast_p0tat0es]

I can't bring myself to sympathise enough with either the nutty evangelical parents or the forced propaganda machine/prison that is compulsory state education to give an opinion one way or the other.

This is one of those situations where you hope both sides lose... Kind of like the Iran-Iraq War. Or England and Australia in cricket.

 

[Chaos]

I can't bring myself to sympathise enough with either the nutty evangelical parents or the forced propaganda machine/prison that is compulsory state education to give an opinion one way or the other.

This is one of those situations where you hope both sides lose... Kind of like the Iran-Iraq War. Or England and Australia in cricket.

"forced propaganda machine/prison" - WTF? I know it´s all chic and sexy around here for clueless foreigners to paint Germany in the most evil light possible, but let´s at least pretend to pay lip service to reality, okay?

 

[Foolmewunz]

Do you think the right to privacy is in there, explicitly or implicitly?



Actually, no, I'm not sure it was the right decision. That actually was not really my point. My main point is that the relevant legal questions here are not about religion.



I'm not the one you need to worry about giving knee jerk responses. You should ponder why your example fits exactly what I've been saying.



Don't be silly. China also oppresses its citizens politically with the threat of violence, and we're not going to give them all asylum for that, even though that's exactly what the laws were designed for.

Well, that's the point isn't it? Political Asylum is meant to offer people a hope of safe haven from the likes of, say, North Korea, Myanmar, China - if you want to include it - Idi Amin, Apartheid South Africa, Romanian Madmen, etc... It is not really meant as a refuge for crybabies living in social democracies that have a recent six decades of pretty good history in human rights areas.

And I concur that it's not about religion.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

The two are not mutally exclusive. Home schooled kids generally do well on standardized tests. Just because Johnny knows his math and science doesn't mean he isn't also getting a whopping dose of Mormon fundamentalism or Nazism on a daily basis.

And if he is, so what? Is it not the right and responsibility of parents to teach their children right from wrong, according to their beliefs? Or do you think it is the place of government to dictate what values and beliefs are valid, and to compel children to only be taught those values and beliefs that are approved by the government?

And if you want government to make the determination that neither Naziism nor “Mormon Fundamentalism” (which has nothing to do with genuine Mormonism) are valid value systems, and that parents are not to be allowed to teach these to their children; then what will be your reaction when that same government crosses the line of determining that YOUR values and beliefs are invalid, and that you are not to be allowed to teach them to YOUR children?

 

[I Ratant]

The parents can teach their anything.
What prevents that?
The state has a vested interest in educated citizens.
There's standards for that.
Anything the parents can add, well, that may enhance or detract what the child knows, but the basic curriculum is set by the state for its benefit.