George Zimmerman shot

Combine these elements to understand GZ's groan inducing interview and statements:

High level of religiousity
Low level of intelligence (I'd wager his IQ is a full 15 points lower than his brother's easily)
Nervousness
Star struck by Hannity
Fearful of legal predicament and fate at that time
Not good at expressing himself
Lawyers telling him not to say anything that acknowledges wrongdoing
 
Skeptic Tank said:
Combine these elements to understand GZ's groan inducing interview and statements:


DishonestyHigh level of religiousity
Low level of intelligence (I'd wager his IQ is a full 15 points lower than his brother's easily)
Nervousness
Star struck by Hannity
Fearful of legal predicament and fate at that time
Not good at expressing himself
Lawyers telling him not to say anything that acknowledges wrongdoing
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ftfy.
 
If you scroll up to the top of the page, you'll note that the thread subject is George Zimmerman and his latest brush with the law. To be clear, that means the thread is not about the posting styles or the politics of those posting in the thread. I have a pocketful of freshly minted yellow cards and will have no hesitation in decorating posts that wander too far from the topic, contain unwarranted personalisation, or are uncivil.
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Ziggurat said:
Your lack of a counter-argument has been noted.
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Well, you didn't really offer a counterargument to me.

This post remains factually correct:
You have been given no facts that give you knowledge of Apperson’s intent, and are in contradiction with the police who investigated the incident and have a great deal more facts at their disposal than you.

You are merely asserting your opinion as fact.
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You just offered special pleading and rationalization in response.
 
johnny karate said:
This post remains factually correct:
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No, it isn't factually correct. In particular, your claim that "You have been given no facts that give you knowledge of Apperson’s intent" is wrong. The fact of Apperson's statement that he hoped he got Zimmerman this time gives us knowledge of Apperson's intent.
 
katy_did said:
The arrest report has some interesting details:



The last paragraph is whited out from the document but visible through cut and paste...
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Can anyone link to a reputable site that has a real arrest report for review? Yes, that scribd.com doc has those words, but I'm more than a little skeptical.
 
Ziggurat said:
No, it isn't factually correct. In particular, your claim that "You have been given no facts that give you knowledge of Apperson’s intent" is wrong. The fact of Apperson's statement that he hoped he got Zimmerman this time gives us knowledge of Apperson's intent.
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Since Apperson's statement had the qualifier "this time" and you are claiming that statement speaks to his intent to kill Zimmerman, to what other times that he tried to kill Zimmerman is he referring when he said "this time"?

And if that statement is so clearly demonstrable of Apperson's intent to kill, then why wasn't he charged with attempted murder?
 
sunmaster14 said:
I inferred posters like you were "rooting for Apperson" because you were explicitly rooting against Zimmerman. I explained my reason for this.
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Except I've said more than once as have others, it looks like they were both at fault. Is that too hard a concept for you? Too much gray maybe, not black and white enough?


16.5 said:
Oh you were rooting AGAINST Zimmerman when you said too bad he only suffered a minor injury.

I thought when you said it was "too bad" that Zimmerman only suffered a minor injury that you were rooting for the person who shot at him to cause a major injury.... Silly me.
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Yes, silly you indeed. :rolleyes:
 
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Wow, the confirmation bias, mind boggling.

"they were both at fault. Is that too hard a concept for you? Too much gray maybe, not black and white enough?"
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Wow, the confirmation bias, mind boggling.

"they were both at fault. Is that too hard a concept for you? Too much gray maybe, not black and white enough?"
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To believe they are both at fault, you would have to believe Apperson's story. I'm not sure why you do. The police don't seem to buy it.
 
sunmaster14 said:
To believe they are both at fault, you would have to believe Apperson's story. I'm not sure why you do. The police don't seem to buy it.
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The police wanted to charge Zimmerman with manslaughter after he killed Martin.

The police do not make a determination of guilt, nor is an arrest or charges filed an indicator of guilt.

That gets determined during the trial phase.
 
johnny karate said:
The police wanted to charge Zimmerman with manslaughter after he killed Martin.

The police do not make a determination of guilt, nor is an arrest or charges filed an indicator of guilt.

That gets determined during the trial phase.
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Thanks for the civics lesson, but I'm trying to find out why Skeptic Ginger thinks that Zimmerman is at fault (at least partly).
 
sunmaster14 said:
Google around for "Apperson arrest report". The one on scribd looks legit.
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How does a document with hidden white text that conveniently favors Zimmerman "seem legit" to you? Ever seen another online police report with white hidden text?
 
carlitos said:
How does a document with hidden white text that conveniently favors Zimmerman "seem legit" to you? Ever seen another online police report with white hidden text?
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Oh, I didn't realize that you were focused on the hidden white text. I can't vouch for that, but I have seen many times people incorrectly use Adobe Acrobat to redact text. There's actually a technique I've used to read redacted text from court filings before that involves converting a PDF to a Word file.
 
Okay, let me be clear. There is a link to an alleged arrest report. That report has hidden white text which incriminates the shooter. Is the entirety of that report for real or not? Again, have you ever seen an online police report with hidden white text? Your answer should be yes or no.
 
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