George Zimmerman shot

Ziggurat said:
Case in point:
It's really quite distasteful.
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Why? Because you don't believe he got off on a murder charge?:rolleyes:

Getting back to the most recent incident, today's news said the two of them had been involved in a previous road rage incident.

Apperson was surrounded by media and he spouted off like he was just as much a hot head as GZ. He snapped at one reporter, "Don't touch me," before walking out saying he had nothing to say. Looks like two birds of a feather who deserve each other.

As for Zimmerman's lawyer saying GZ didn't wave a gun, that's just as likely a lie as the other guy saying he did.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Why? Because you don't believe he got off on a murder charge?:rolleyes:
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For a whole host of reasons, starting with the fact that you're advocating vigilante "justice".

Getting back to the most recent incident, today's news said the two of them had been involved in a previous road rage incident.

Apperson was surrounded by media and he spouted off like he was just as much a hot head as GZ. He snapped at one reporter, "Don't touch me," before walking out saying he had nothing to say. Looks like two birds of a feather who deserve each other.

As for Zimmerman's lawyer saying GZ didn't wave a gun, that's just as likely a lie as the other guy saying he did.
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So you admit that you don't know what happened or who is to blame, but you still want Zimmerman hurt badly, regardless of what happened.

And you wonder why I consider that distasteful.
 
Ziggurat said:
For a whole host of reasons, starting with the fact that you're advocating vigilante "justice".



So you admit that you don't know what happened or who is to blame, but you still want Zimmerman hurt badly, regardless of what happened.

And you wonder why I consider that distasteful.
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Yes there is nothing wrong with stalking people while armed against police advice, that is a favorite activity of many gun owners really.
 
Ziggurat said:
For a whole host of reasons, starting with the fact that you're advocating vigilante "justice".

So you admit that you don't know what happened or who is to blame, but you still want Zimmerman hurt badly, regardless of what happened.

And you wonder why I consider that distasteful.
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You are confusing, "too bad" with advocating. They are not the same.

As for who is to blame, who cares? Zimmerman is a known domestic abuser, he confronted a teenager in the dark and then claimed self defense after he killed him. It sounds like the other guy in this case is also a jerk.

What about GZ makes you feel the need to defend him or see him as a victim? I don't get it. Do you think it was heroic that GZ confronted an innocent kid? Do you think he's been wronged in some way because there are consequences from deserved infamy?
 
theprestige said:
There is also a measure of schadenfreude that we enjoy upon receiving news of each new unpleasantness that befalls him.
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I certainly don't advocate any harm coming to Zimmerman, but in fairness, every "unpleasantness" that has befallen this man post-acquittal up until now has been of his own making.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
You are confusing, "too bad" with advocating. They are not the same.
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Exactly. I'm not saying this guy should have tried to kill Zimmerman, I'm just saying it's "too bad" he didn't succeed.

The two things are totally different.













Unless someone does succeed, which wouldn't be "too bad" at all. In that case I'd be willing to cut them some slack.
 
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George is an idiot...but this Matthew Apperson person appears to me like he may be in trouble. Looking at this picture of the rolled up window with the bullet hole...its very difficult to justify that kind of shooting.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Whoops, I missed Zig's big giant vigilante irony staring me in the face.:p
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Unless you're accusing Ziggurat himself of vigilantism or of advocating it, there is no irony here, or even a sequitur. He's accusing you of advocating vigilantism. What does that have to do with whether or not you believe Zimmerman is a vigilante?
 
383LQ4SS said:
George is an idiot...but this Matthew Apperson person appears to me like he may be in trouble. Looking at this picture of the rolled up window with the bullet hole...its very difficult to justify that kind of shooting.
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He might well be. His biggest problem of course is that Zimmerman is alive to contradict his story about why he was afraid for his life.
 
sunmaster14 said:
Unless you're accusing Ziggurat himself of vigilantism or of advocating it, there is no irony here, or even a sequitur. He's accusing you of advocating vigilantism. What does that have to do with whether or not you believe Zimmerman is a vigilante?
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So there is nothing about stalking a kid through your neighborhood while armed that is at all reminiscent of vigilantism? Zimmerman is a vigilante hero to many.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
You are confusing, "too bad" with advocating. They are not the same.

As for who is to blame, who cares? Zimmerman is a known domestic abuser, he confronted a teenager in the dark and then claimed self defense after he killed him. It sounds like the other guy in this case is also a jerk.

What about GZ makes you feel the need to defend him or see him as a victim? I don't get it. Do you think it was heroic that GZ confronted an innocent kid? Do you think he's been wronged in some way because there are consequences from deserved infamy?
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You don't get it. It's not him I'm defending. It's basic standards of human decency. Wishing harm on people you don't know because they irritate your sensibilities is a bad thing. It's bad for you (even if you don't understand why), it's bad for society as a whole. That applies regardless of my opinion of Zimmerman. And you will note that I haven't defended him here at all. My argument here doesn't depend on any defense of him. This is a pathetic attempt to redirect the issue away from your own reprehensible behavior here.
 
383LQ4SS said:
George is an idiot...but this Matthew Apperson person appears to me like he may be in trouble. Looking at this picture of the rolled up window with the bullet hole...its very difficult to justify that kind of shooting.
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The other thing about those pictures that I find interesting is the dark tint. It's hard to see much of anything through them. I wonder if it's even possible to see someone brandish a gun from the other side.
 
Belz... said:
Ironic statement, considering who we're talking about.
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There is irony here, but you missed where it's coming from. It's not from me (I haven't advocated vigilantism under any scenario), it's from SG.
 
Ziggurat said:
The other thing about those pictures that I find interesting is the dark tint. It's hard to see much of anything through them. I wonder if it's even possible to see someone brandish a gun from the other side.
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I doubt that it is.

But it might be possible to roll that window down and then back up again.
 
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