Geometry of Electron Shells

Gentlefolk all,

DJJ IS A TROLL. HE IS SIMPLY TRYING TO PUMP HIS WEBSITE HIT-COUNT AND GOOGLE-BOMB IT WITH HIS SIG. YOU ARE ADVISED NOT TO PLAY WITH HIM ANY MORE.

Regards
 
Schneibster said:
Hey, ain't that, "Bite! Prime! Pour! Patch! Spit?"
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You'd think so, wouldn't you? But Sgt. Harper from Sharpe's Battle never mentions a patch. I guess soldiers in the Napoleonic Wars didn't have time for such luxury...

Any black powder aficionados know why these guys wouldn't be using them?
 
Loss Leader said:
And also because Platonic solids are nothing more than mathematical oddities involving fairly low numbers. If you spend enough time in three-dimensional space, you'll find something that resembles or reminds you of a Platonic solid. However, there's a huge difference between similarity and correlation and an even greater distance between correlation and causation.

Even if there were repeating patterns all throughout the microcosm and macrocosm, it would be no proof at all that a higher intelligence or God had created the system. It would simply be proof that the system has those properties.

I've come to realize that I could grant every single mathematical principle DJJ spouts as true and it still would lend zero weight to the concept of a creator.

By the way, isn't it amazing that a number of any length is divisible by 9 if adding up all of its digits produces a number divisible by 9? And any number is divisible by 4 if its last two digits are divisible by 4. It doesn't mean there's a God, though.
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Youre right loss Leader, there is no design, no patterns, no laws, no physics, no math makes sense, and there are no patterns. it is all just luck and chance and we all better believe it or we will send a mob to descend upon the non believers and make as foolish posts as possible.

Coming back to my senses and reconnecting up all those synapsis, that make sense and have established routes of inteconnected truths, Sorry, Loss Leader, I have to NOW differ. Platonic solids do give the basics as they are just the basics, but if people know not the basics how can they advance. I mean, the basics of straight line, triangle, square, and beyond is not something to be a afraid of. Just learn basic geometry. Atoms have this basic geometry

I mean the reason one of the reasons why the Jews are so advanced, is that they study the geometry of the tree of Life. We obviously don;t have to as that information is readily available although a teacher does help.

They have to be over the age of 40 and have credentials, whereas we can just get the basics in simple internet or library studies.

SEE Jerry the Jews calculations....


http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/T.html

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T.O.E. Equations Prove Creation
 
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Jackalgirl said:
Okay, I think I grok. Now, I haven't read to the (current) end of the thread yet, so you may have covered this already, but could you give me another analogy for "standing wave"? Is there something to visualize, or would that over-simplify it?
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I remember reading somewhere that when you pee the urine makes a standing wave.

On relflection maybe that's not something you want to visualise!
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Youre right loss Leader,
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Misquote removed.
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I agree.

Do not change a quoted post, especially in order to insult another poster.
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That's misquoting me, CYBORG, again you are showing you are so frustrated that you must degrade yourself into trying to change what I wrote.

Originally Posted by Davidjayjordan
Youre right loss Leader, I AM QUITE STUPID
I agree.

The quote in grey is not mine, but a slanderous addition.

Please EDIT your lie.

Thanks
 
When you stop being insane I might consider replying to you as if you were not.
 
cyborg said:
When you stop being insane I might consider replying to you as if you were not.
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Cyborg,

This guy is not going to stop being insane. At least, not until he consults with a competent psychiatrist. Even then, it will take the meds a few months to adequately kick in.

BTW, I thought your edit was priceless! It may not have been what he actually wrote but it accurately and succinctly summarized what he wrote.

Really, there are worthier challenges on this planet. As DJJ himself would tell you "cast not your pearls before swine".
 
Hey, I'm fully aware of this. He's not much more than entertainment at this point. Like trying to find the right words to get an IRCBOT to say something interesting.

Plus does DJJ actually think anyone would think I was actually quoting him when it was just about as plain as day what I had done? How stupid does he think everyone else is?
 
Aepervius said:
You know I started reading the thread, and nearly started formulating an answer (VSEPR, the limit thereof, how the s,p,d orbital looks liek and why, analogy with standing wave etc...etc..). And then I saw the answer from djj.

I really really really need a kitten photo for such threads and troll like djj.
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I was about to do the same thing with my Chem 101 knowledge when I saw that it had already been done and done way better than I ever could have.

So now I sit, giggle, and cheer.
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Youre right loss Leader, there is no design, no patterns, no laws, no physics, no math makes sense, and there are no patterns. it is all just luck and chance and we all better believe it or we will send a mob to descend upon the non believers and make as foolish posts as possible.

Coming back to my senses and reconnecting up all those synapsis, that make sense and have established routes of inteconnected truths, Sorry, Loss Leader, I have to NOW differ. Platonic solids do give the basics as they are just the basics, but if people know not the basics how can they advance. I mean, the basics of straight line, triangle, square, and beyond is not something to be a afraid of. Just learn basic geometry. Atoms have this basic geometry

I mean the reason one of the reasons why the Jews are so advanced, is that they study the geometry of the tree of Life. We obviously don;t have to as that information is readily available although a teacher does help.

They have to be over the age of 40 and have credentials, whereas we can just get the basics in simple internet or library studies.

SEE Jerry the Jews calculations....


http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/T.html

Entitled

T.O.E. Equations Prove Creation
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How far away is the moon from the earth, David?
 
Davidjayjordan said:
I mean the reason one of the reasons why the Jews are so advanced, is that they study the geometry of the tree of Life. We obviously don;t have to as that information is readily available although a teacher does help.
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As a Jew, I can say with perfect confidence that none of what you just said is in any way true.

T.O.E. Equations Prove Creation
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No amount of order in the universe can prove that the universe was purposefully created.

Seriously, DJJ, get help.
 
Buckaroo said:
You'd think so, wouldn't you? But Sgt. Harper from Sharpe's Battle never mentions a patch. I guess soldiers in the Napoleonic Wars didn't have time for such luxury...

Any black powder aficionados know why these guys wouldn't be using them?
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I'm totally just guessing here, because I don't know for sure, but I think that the Sharpe's series takes place when cartridges were in use. So you didn't have a separate patch you had to stuff down there. You'd bite off the top of the cartridge, you'd prime the pan, you'd pour the rest down the barrel, then ram the remainder of the cartridge (ball & paper, which formed the sabot or patch around the ball) down the barrel, and then you'd be good to go. I guess the "spit" is the reminder to clear your mouth for the next cartridge or something.

Update: just did a little additional research and found an appreciation page that talks about the "Sharpe's" series main weapon, the Baker rifle. According to the page, "Riflemen were allowed by their officers to load their rifles in whatever way they liked as long as they could prove that it was accurate to a set standard, some with separate ball and patch, others with cartridges. " It mentions that "later", a cartridge was developed, and I'm not sure what "later" means (the gun went into production in 1800, and the "Sharpe's" series takes place in the early 1800s). Can't find any references to the year(s) of introduction of the cartridge for the Baker rifle anywhere.

You can find a manual for Baker rifle loading here, which talks exclusively about using a cartridge (so I guess the introduction was rather early). No mention of a command to "spit", tho, nor does any step in the manual reference spitting out the cartridge bit.
 
Jackalgirl said:
I'm totally just guessing here, because I don't know for sure, but I think that the Sharpe's series takes place when cartridges were in use. So you didn't have a separate patch you had to stuff down there. You'd bite off the top of the cartridge, you'd prime the pan, you'd pour the rest down the barrel, then ram the remainder of the cartridge (ball & paper, which formed the sabot or patch around the ball) down the barrel, and then you'd be good to go. I guess the "spit" is the reminder to clear your mouth for the next cartridge or something.
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Yes, you're absolutely right, they're using cartridges. I thought it might be the case that the remainder of the cartridge formed the patch, but I wasn't sure, and didn't want to go out on a limb and expose my ignorance... :) They spit the ball/cartridge remnants as a quick way to get them into the barrel, which partially accounted for way the Chosen Men and those they trained were so fast with their shots.

Of course, I'm going purely on what I've learned watching the Sharpe series. My Dad got me addicted, and now I've got to read the books. I should've learned after he got me hooked on Patrick O'Brian. The first taste is free....

ETA: Great links, by the way! Thanks!
 
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Buckaroo said:
Yes, you're absolutely right, they're using cartridges. I thought it might be the case that the remainder of the cartridge formed the patch, but I wasn't sure, and didn't want to go out on a limb and expose my ignorance... :) They spit the ball/cartridge remnants as a quick way to get them into the barrel, which partially accounted for way the Chosen Men and those they trained were so fast with their shots.

Of course, I'm going purely on what I've learned watching the Sharpe series. My Dad got me addicted, and now I've got to read the books. I should've learned after he got me hooked on Patrick O'Brian. The first taste is free....

ETA: Great links, by the way! Thanks!
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NP! I love the Sharpe/Aubrey-Maturin series. They're both fabulous. I have to buy back the "Master and Commander" set, though, because I gave all the books (save one) to the guys on one of the oil terminals off Iraq. They're stuck there for 6 months at a time and don't have much to do (it's an oil terminal), poor guys. So I was completely happy to hand over the books. : )
 
Patrick O'Brien is a genius. I grew up on C. S. Forester's Hornblower novels. But Aubrey and Maturin are much more real.

I have been to Trafalgar Square and gazed upon my idol.
 
Schneibster said:
Patrick O'Brien is a genius. I grew up on C. S. Forester's Hornblower novels. But Aubrey and Maturin are much more real.

I have been to Trafalgar Square and gazed upon my idol.
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Ah hah! Another reason to like you -- science AND O'Brien! ; )

Have you seen this book yet? Good source for dead-thread posts!
 
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