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jimbob said:
I knew who you meant with that phrase.

I saw something of his on logistics that went off on one, due to Austrian school interpretation of logistics
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Yes, he put forward the idea that logistics problems could be solved by making the various front line units buy their ammunition from self employed drivers who would buy the needed supplies and use their own transport to get it to the purchaser.
His idea was that those in most need would offer a higher price for the supplies so they would go to where they were most needed.
 
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EXCLUSIVE Scotland Yard will meet with a leading Conservative MP to discuss claims of threats and blackmail of rebel Tory backbenchers by Government whips, The @Telegraph can disclose.
A detective from the Metropolitan Police will meet with William Wragg early next week. 1/2

It's a major escalation in the battle between the Government's whips and a minority of increasingly angry Conservative backbenchers, frustrated with Boris Johnson's leadership.
Any Met investigation could become a major distraction to the Government. Full story shortly 2/2

William Wragg told me: "I stand by what I have said. No amount of gas-lighting will change that.
"The offer of Number 10 to investigate is kind but I shall leave it to the experts.
"I am meeting the Police early next week."

One source in the Government's whips' office told The Daily Telegraph that the claims of threats and blackmail were "complete b***", and said to ask the rebels for "for a single shred of evidence".

Downing Street signalled that the Government would not seek out evidence following the allegations of blackmail by whips.
A spokesman for the Prime Minister said "we would look at it very carefully" if evidence was presented to them.
 
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Captain_Swoop said:
Yes, he put forward the idea that logistics problems could be solved by making the various front line units buy their ammunition from self employed drivers who would buy the needed supplies and use their own transport to get it to the purchaser.
His idea was that those in most need would offer a higher price for the supplies so they would go to where they were most needed.
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:eye-poppi:confused::boggled::covereyes:boggled::jaw-dropp

Libertarianism really is a mental disease.
 
Tobias Ellwood chairman of the defence select committee proposes military takeover of No 10.

Bringing in a senior officer to take charge of day-to-day running of Downing Street would provide the public with a 'sense of assurance'.

a minister suggesting bringing in the military to sort out number 10 rather than sacking the lying, law-breaking Prime Minister and another one made a speech about getting rid of announcements on trains.

The Tories have lost the plot.
 
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That's a touch concerning.

"Let's have a military coup, nothing ever goes wrong with those" isn't something I expected even from this bunch of whacked out loonies.
 
Well tbh "get the army in" is the go to answer when the government has messed up everything else.

Not enough drivers - get the army in
No fuel - get the army in
Floods - get the army in

And so on...
 
Pesky peasants demanding answers over my booze fuelled work life - get the army in!
 
jimbob said:
He wrote a book on Churchill - review here:

https://www.newstatesman.com/cultur...nother-who-seems-just-make-it-boris-churchill

(I think they mean November 2014 looking at the URL)



There seem to be a small group of Stalingrad deniers who think that the Germans did capture Stalingrad - not just most of it and in a way that they were unable to exploit and indeed were destroyed.
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We know why Boris Johnson sees himself as Churchill.

DOMINIC (for it is he): Sir, you are drunk!

JOHNSON: And you are ugly. But I shall be sober in the morning.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Tobias Ellwood chairman of the defence select committee proposes military takeover of No 10.

Bringing in a senior officer to take charge of day-to-day running of Downing Street would provide the public with a 'sense of assurance'.

a minister suggesting bringing in the military to sort out number 10 rather than sacking the lying, law-breaking Prime Minister and another one made a speech about getting rid of announcements on trains.

The Tories have lost the plot.
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Evidence?

To have lost the plot they would have had to have the plot in the first place! :D
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Yes, he put forward the idea that logistics problems could be solved by making the various front line units buy their ammunition from self employed drivers who would buy the needed supplies and use their own transport to get it to the purchaser.
His idea was that those in most need would offer a higher price for the supplies so they would go to where they were most needed.
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I hope Sajid Javid doesn't read this....
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Yes, he put forward the idea that logistics problems could be solved by making the various front line units buy their ammunition from self employed drivers who would buy the needed supplies and use their own transport to get it to the purchaser.
His idea was that those in most need would offer a higher price for the supplies so they would go to where they were most needed.
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That was the one.

It actually made me wonder at his analyses elsewhere too.

It falls over at so many levels.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Yes, he put forward the idea that logistics problems could be solved by making the various front line units buy their ammunition from self employed drivers who would buy the needed supplies and use their own transport to get it to the purchaser.
His idea was that those in most need would offer a higher price for the supplies so they would go to where they were most needed.
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Was Milo Minderbinder involved?
 
jimbob said:
That was the one.

It actually made me wonder at his analyses elsewhere too.

It falls over at so many levels.
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His straight ww2 history is good. His series on Stalingrad, Operations Battleaxe and Crusader, the Courland Pocket and Market Garden are very thorough.
 
Nusrat Ghani: I was sacked as a minister ‘because I was a Muslim’

A Conservative MP has accused a party whip of telling her she was fired from her ministerial job because her Muslim faith was “making colleagues uncomfortable”.

Nusrat Ghani, 49, was sacked as a transport minister in a mini-reshuffle in February 2020. She claimed she was told by a whip that her “Muslimness was raised as an issue” at a meeting in Downing Street and that her “Muslim woman minister status was making colleagues feel uncomfortable”.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...s-a-minister-because-i-was-a-muslim-p38lmvlvg
 
Govt source says the accusation made by Nus Ghani that she was told by a whip that she was sacked as a minister because she was a Muslim is "categorically untrue"

A spokesperson on behalf of the Whips Office said:
“These claims are categorically untrue. Ministerial roles are appointed on merit and rewards for hard work. The Conservative Party does not tolerate any form of racism or discrimination.”
 
Gavin Williamson said he’d withdraw school money if MP didn’t vote against feeding kids
Tory minister sacked for “Muslimness”
Chief whip tweets & deletes admission
Sue Gray has damning evidence
Tory MPs want Met to look into parties

And that’s just today
 
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Govt source says the accusation made by Nus Ghani that she was told by a whip that she was sacked as a minister because she was a Muslim is "categorically untrue"

A spokesperson on behalf of the Whips Office said:
“These claims are categorically untrue. Ministerial roles are appointed on merit and rewards for hard work. The Conservative Party does not tolerate any form of racism or discrimination.”
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Well, a quick look at the Cabinet shows that to be clearly untrue.
 
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