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Liz Truss asked for public money to cover £3,000 lunch

Liz Truss, the current favourite to succeed Boris Johnson as leader of the Conservatives among party members, hosted a lunch at an expensive private club owned by a Tory donor after overruling civil service advice to look for a cheaper venue.

Leaked correspondence has revealed the foreign secretary “refused to consider anywhere else” and asked that public funds should pay for a £3,000 event with Joe Biden’s trade representative.
Civil servants were so concerned at the cost and the venue’s close links to the Tories that the proposal was referred to the most senior official at the Department for International Trade.

According to the correspondence, Truss, then the trade secretary, “explicitly asked that we book 5 Hertford Street”, which is owned by Robin Birley, a £20,000 donor to Boris Johnson’s leadership campaign and the half-brother of Zac Goldsmith, the environment minister.
The venue agreed to reduce the bill to £1,400, but on condition of immediate payment – which meant civil servants had to use an emergency process to pay up straight away.

The correspondence, disclosed by the Sunday Times, comes as Truss’s supporters conduct a campaign for her to succeed the prime minister should he be toppled by Tory MPs.
Truss and her companions drank two bottles of dry gin, three £153 bottles of Pazo Barrantes Albariño, a Spanish white wine and two bottles of the French red Coudoulet de Beaucastel at £130 a bottle, it was reported.
Before attending the event with US trade representatives, a civil servant described the club as “obviously incredibly expensive and more than I understand we’d usually expect to pay for such a venue”.

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ch-for-us-envoy-over-civil-service-objections

ETA I don't think that is right about two bottles of gin. From the itemised bill it appears that they were just two expensive glasses of gin
 
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Liz Truss tweeted
@trussliz
· Dec 31, 2021
The UK has advanced the cause of freedom, democracy, free trade and free enterprise this year.

In 2022 we will continue to deliver for the United Kingdom, boosting economic and security ties across the world and building a global network of liberty.
 
Liz Truss tweeted
@trussliz
· Dec 31, 2021
The UK has advanced the cause of freedom, democracy, free trade and free enterprise this year.

In 2022 we will continue to deliver for the United Kingdom, boosting economic and security ties across the world and building a global network of liberty*

You missed the footnote

*excludes GB
 
Liz Truss asked for public money to cover £3,000 lunch

Liz Truss, the current favourite to succeed Boris Johnson as leader of the Conservatives among party members, hosted a lunch at an expensive private club owned by a Tory donor after overruling civil service advice to look for a cheaper venue.

Leaked correspondence has revealed the foreign secretary “refused to consider anywhere else” and asked that public funds should pay for a £3,000 event with Joe Biden’s trade representative.
Civil servants were so concerned at the cost and the venue’s close links to the Tories that the proposal was referred to the most senior official at the Department for International Trade.

According to the correspondence, Truss, then the trade secretary, “explicitly asked that we book 5 Hertford Street”, which is owned by Robin Birley, a £20,000 donor to Boris Johnson’s leadership campaign and the half-brother of Zac Goldsmith, the environment minister.
The venue agreed to reduce the bill to £1,400, but on condition of immediate payment – which meant civil servants had to use an emergency process to pay up straight away.

The correspondence, disclosed by the Sunday Times, comes as Truss’s supporters conduct a campaign for her to succeed the prime minister should he be toppled by Tory MPs.
Truss and her companions drank two bottles of dry gin, three £153 bottles of Pazo Barrantes Albariño, a Spanish white wine and two bottles of the French red Coudoulet de Beaucastel at £130 a bottle, it was reported.
Before attending the event with US trade representatives, a civil servant described the club as “obviously incredibly expensive and more than I understand we’d usually expect to pay for such a venue”.

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ch-for-us-envoy-over-civil-service-objections

ETA I don't think that is right about two bottles of gin. From the itemised bill it appears that they were just two expensive glasses of gin

WTAF is any restaurant doing charging £130 a pop for Coudoulet? Or £153 for that particular Albarino? Neither cost £20 retail...That's just robbery!

ETA And this was work, so WTAF are these folk doing drinking at work, in a way pretty much ALL public employees are barred from doing so?
 
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Liz Truss tweeted
@trussliz
· Dec 31, 2021
The UK has advanced the cause of freedom, democracy, free trade and free enterprise this year.

In 2022 we will continue to deliver for the United Kingdom, boosting economic and security ties across the world and building a global network of liberty.

Presumably that will continue to be 'Liberty' in the exclusive sense of "Taking a Bloody"
 
WTAF is any restaurant doing charging £130 a pop for Coudoulet? Or £153 for that particular Albarino? Neither cost £20 retail...That's just robbery!

ETA And this was work, so WTAF are these folk doing drinking at work, in a way pretty much ALL public employees are barred from doing so?


Apparently it’s fine at government meetings, that’s why none of the parties were actually parties, and it explains a lot about how the country is being run.
 
Law change allows wild birds to be killed to protect game birds in England

Some wild birds can now be killed in order to protect game birds bred for shooting in England, after the government updated guidelines on its general licences.

General shooting licences give broad permissions to shoot certain species of wild birds to protect livestock, aid conservation, and preserve health and public safety.

The new licences have been issued for two years rather than one, with government officials saying this is to provide “stability and certainty” to shooters.

General licences are permissive licences, meaning users do not need to apply for them but they must comply with their terms and conditions when undertaking licensed acts.

There has been debate over whether pheasants, partridges and grouse count as livestock, as they are wild birds, and so whether predators can be shot in order to protect them.

The Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) has released a new definition of “livestock” including these birds, to give explicit permission to shoot carrion crows, jackdaws, magpies and rooks.

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...-wild-birds-killed-protect-game-birds-england


Got to have plenty of tame targets for the toffs to massacre.
 
No, he plays one IRL: if he didn't have his famous, wealthy and very well-connected father and been put through the Eton connections and leg up factory he would be nothing. Can you imagine him having to grow up on a council estate on Teesside? Having to survive around South Bank or Grangetown?

He's just another product of privilege without any discernible talent.

He just plays one on TV?

He's not as much of an idiot as he pretends.

It doesn't take a genius to take advantage of the opportunities for increasing wealth that he's had, but he is taking them. Utterly cynical.
 
In response to a FOI request, the Treasury revealed that it had wiped 117 phones in 2020, and the Cabinet Office said it had wiped 153 phones.

Apparently if the wrong unlock code is put in to an official mobile phone 3 times it is locked and has to be wiped to reset it destroying any text messages, call records and other data on the phone.
 
In response to a FOI request, the Treasury revealed that it had wiped 117 phones in 2020, and the Cabinet Office said it had wiped 153 phones.

Apparently if the wrong unlock code is put in to an official mobile phone 3 times it is locked and has to be wiped to reset it destroying any text messages, call records and other data on the phone.


I’ve been using mobile phones since last century, and have never had one locked.
 
I’ve been using mobile phones since last century, and have never had one locked.

It's a security thing on official phones apparently, in case they are lost or fall in to the wrong hands.

there is a similar system on official laptops.

Three tries and they are locked and encrypted.
 
Daniel Kawczynski, Tory MP for Shrewsbury has claimed over £8000 in expenses last year to learn Polish. Daniel Kawczynski was born in Poland to Polish speaking parents and speaks fluent Polish!

The Tories are stealing our money.
 
Law change allows wild birds to be killed to protect game birds in England

Some wild birds can now be killed in order to protect game birds bred for shooting in England, after the government updated guidelines on its general licences.

General shooting licences give broad permissions to shoot certain species of wild birds to protect livestock, aid conservation, and preserve health and public safety.

The new licences have been issued for two years rather than one, with government officials saying this is to provide “stability and certainty” to shooters.

General licences are permissive licences, meaning users do not need to apply for them but they must comply with their terms and conditions when undertaking licensed acts.

There has been debate over whether pheasants, partridges and grouse count as livestock, as they are wild birds, and so whether predators can be shot in order to protect them.

The Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) has released a new definition of “livestock” including these birds, to give explicit permission to shoot carrion crows, jackdaws, magpies and rooks.

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...-wild-birds-killed-protect-game-birds-england


Got to have plenty of tame targets for the toffs to massacre.

What is it about "country folk" which leads them to the conclusion that the solution to any problem is the wholesale slaughter of wild animals ? :confused:
 
Daniel Kawczynski, Tory MP for Shrewsbury has claimed over £8000 in expenses last year to learn Polish. Daniel Kawczynski was born in Poland to Polish speaking parents and speaks fluent Polish!

The Tories are stealing our money.

Apparently it's fine because "they all do it". :rolleyes:

The fact that one party seem to do it far more often and steal far more money is irrelevant.

The question that arises is "what did he spend the £8k on ?". If it was, say, to improve his old fashioned rural Polish to modern business Polish and he can produce receipts to show 200 lessons at £40 a pop then I suppose there's some defence (though still ridiculously expensive".

If the £8k actually covered him and others going to visit his family in Poland then that's less defendable.

According to the Daily Fail, it's over £22k over the last few years.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ot-bill-Tory-MP-22k-worth-Polish-lessons.html

Story dates back to November last year.
 
WTAF is any restaurant doing charging £130 a pop for Coudoulet? Or £153 for that particular Albarino? Neither cost £20 retail...That's just robbery!

ETA And this was work, so WTAF are these folk doing drinking at work, in a way pretty much ALL public employees are barred from doing so?

I must correct my statement about wine prices, as the Graun now has it as 2 bottles of the Albarino and 3 of Coudoulet and that the price given is for 2 and 3 bottles respectively, not to mention that it was only 2 glasses of gin.

One does begin to wonder about the accuracy of some of the reporting here and if there is - though it pains me to say - some class of an agenda.
 
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I must correct my statement about wine prices, as the Graun now has it as 2 bottles of the Albarino and 3 of Coudoulet and that the price given is for 2 and 3 bottles respectively, not to mention that it was only 2 glasses of gin.

One does begin to wonder about the accuracy of some of the reporting here and if there is - though it pains me to say - some class of an agenda.

That was after the bill was reduced from £3000 to £1400.
 
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