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Nice headlines to wake up to:

"North Shropshire by-election: Humiliation for Boris Johnson as Tories lose to Lib Dems."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politic...ction-result-tories-lose-lib-dems-win-labour/


"'No 10 is creating a nightly soap opera of calamity and chaos', says Helen Morgan in North Shropshire by-election victory speech"

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politic...nightly-soap-opera-calamity-chaos-says-helen/


(I like that these are both from The Telegraph, Johnson's 'safe port in a storm', an additional kick in the nuts for the complacent oaf)
 
That said, senior Conservatives are behaving like indulgent middle-class parents saying that young Boris is absolutely on his last chance.

Challenged over the comments from Tory grandee Sir Roger Gale - who has said Boris Johnson is now on his "last orders" <snip>
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-...bc4102531c2c4733361213&pinned_post_type=share

...and like a child of indulgent middle class parents, he's not going to change his behaviour one jot. I'd say he was almost daring them to do it but IMO the truth is that he simply cannot imagine them taking action against him, such is his sense of entitlement.
 
Boris has been a dead man walking since elected. His career showed he was incapable for the job. Absent the pandemic he would still have faltered.
The question is when.
The Tories in the last few general elections have by changing the leader convinced the electorate that they present a radical change to the previous (Tory) government. They need to find someone who will be the change to Boris. Is there a competent, truthful, monogamous Tory out there?
 
Lothian said:
Is there a competent, truthful, monogamous Tory out there?
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Maybe, but she doesn't seem interested in the job and any perception of truthfulness and propriety may only be down to a lack of scrutiny. :o


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Also most of her political positions appear to be diametrically opposed to current party policy and more akin to something Labour or the LibDems would suggest so she lacks "gammon-appeal"
 
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You thought Boris was a bad/weak leader?

Patel, Gove and Raab in unison: "Hold my beer!"

Dishy Rishi is probably best of a bad lot.

Pity Dominic Grieve and Ken Clarke are gone.
 
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You thought Boris was a bad/weak leader?

Patel, Gove and Raab in unison: "Hold my beer!"

Dishy Rishi is probably best of a bad lot.

Pity Dominic Grieve and Ken Clarke are gone.
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At this rate, and considering the sensibilities of the current Tory faithful, Nadine Dorries may even be in the running for PM :boggled::eye-poppi
 
Radio 4 today were discussing this. I was driving so no notes. I'd agree with someone that Tories tolerated BJ as he won elections and by-elections. He failed to deliver so knives are out. BUT it seems that nobody is really seen as an acceptable new leader who will tick all the required boxes of Brexit, Red wall voters etc so expect an interregnum. Look how long May stayed in until they found someone.
 
The Don said:
At this rate, and considering the sensibilities of the current Tory faithful, Nadine Dorries may even be in the running for PM :boggled::eye-poppi
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Liz Truss (heaven help us) is 2nd favourite after Sunak.
 
"Winner Helen Morgan took the seat by nearly 6,000 votes, overturning a Conservative majority of almost 23,000!"

Ha!
 
From the BBC:

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11:17
Tory MPs asked not to speak publicly until Johnson reacts
Meanwhile, in Westminster, the Tory whips - essentially party managers - have been texting backbenchers asking them not to speak out on the result and to wait and hear what the PM says first, the BBC has been told.

We haven't heard yet from Boris Johnson, but he is expected to speak later.

Given the scale of the party's defeat, they will no doubt be listening carefully to what he has to say.

Some Tory MPs, including Sir Roger Gale, John Redwood and Sir Charles Walker have spoken to media about the defeat this morning.

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Perhaps Johnson was on feeding duty last night so hasn't got up yet.... or perhaps hung over after not attending a party that didn't happen and if it had happened no rules were broken?
 
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This didn't age well
December the 3rd Lucy Allan MP (Tory Telford) said

Lib Dems have put up a staunch Remainer in North Shropshire. Shows contempt for voters or lack of knowledge of local area.
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That it was such a strong pro Brexit seat must also be worrying for the Tories.
 
There was plenty of sensible tactical voting from Labour and Green supporters.

Tories didn't help themselves by dropping in someone from Birmingham who had to be kept away from the press because of his lack of knowledge of the constituency.

Already heard someone say it's not important because by-elections always go against the party in power and it's just a 'protest vote', nothing to do with Boris or his popularity.
 
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