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Captain_Swoop said:
Well, it is called the 'European' convention.
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A pox on Churchill I say!

I've always wondered why more defenders of our rights don't use the fact that it was the Churchill who proposed it and used his influence to bring many countries together and it was British lawyers who penned the ECHR.
 
The Don said:
The trouble is that alongside banning bendy bananas, classifying British sausages as "offal sticks" and banning sport fishing, it's the kind of thing that people want to believe is true because it aligns with their own misconceptions of the EU (gained from decades of misinformation from government and the media :()
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Remind me again: exactly which well-known purveyor of lies made up much of that when he was the Telegraph's Brussels correspondent?

Whatever happened to him? Didn't Max Hastings sack him for lying?
 
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A pox on Churchill I say!

I've always wondered why more defenders of our rights don't use the fact that it was the Churchill who proposed it and used his influence to bring many countries together and it was British lawyers who penned the ECHR.
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CINO the lot of them!
 
Carrot Flower King said:
Remind me again: exactly which well-known purveyor of lies made up much of that when he was the Telegraph's Brussels correspondent?

Whatever happened to him? Didn't Max Hastings sack him for lying?
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Well, the “Eurosausage” was a joke on Yes Minister. Implementing European regulations on ingredients would mean that the British sausage would have to be renamed to the Emulsified High-Fat Offal Tube.

It's now quoted as a reality though.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Well, the “Eurosausage” was a joke on Yes Minister. Implementing European regulations on ingredients would mean that the British sausage would have to be renamed to the Emulsified High-Fat Offal Tube.

It's now quoted as a reality though.
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Oh, yeah! But even then it wasn't too far off the mark in its representation of anti-EU, errrrrrrrrr, thinking.
 
Paul Brand, UK Editor at ITV News

Were police aware of the Downing Street Christmas Party?

ITV News understands that an alarm was triggered accidentally that night inside No 10, leading security/police to respond.
So far the Met have declined to investigate.
 
This is like a Tory rule breaking advent calendar. I wonder what’s behind the last window?
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Daily Mirror has pictures of a Christmas Party at the Tory Westminster HQ for an event organised by Shaun Bailey’s mayoral campaign - Mr Bailey tonight quit as chair of the London Assembly’s police and crime committee after being approached by the Mirror


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/extraordinary-image-shows-raucous-xmas-25699183
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When I saw that image elsewhere, I genuinely thought it was Coldwar Steve's take on the last week's news about the party not a genuine photo.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Daily Mirror has pictures of a Christmas Party at the Tory Westminster HQ for an event organised by Shaun Bailey’s mayoral campaign - Mr Bailey tonight quit as chair of the London Assembly’s police and crime committee after being approached by the Mirror


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/extraordinary-image-shows-raucous-xmas-25699183
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He didn't have the brains not to attend the party, but at least displayed a shred of honour in resigning so quickly.
 
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I think it's generally fair to say that unplanned, informal parties don't tend to have hot and cold buffets.
 
GlennB said:
He didn't have the brains not to attend the party, but at least displayed a shred of honour in resigning so quickly.
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He was a wuss, he should have just brazened it out. :rolleyes:

Of course he's only resigned as chair of the London Assembly’s police and crime committee - he's still drawing a salary as a member of the assembly ;)
 
Meanwhile, the rate of inflation in the UK is over 5%.

The cost of living surged by 5.1% in the 12 months to November, up from 4.2% the month before, and its highest level since September 2011.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59663947

As someone with considerable cash savings and no outstanding borrowings either personally or commercially, I would ordinarily be looking forward to a steep rise in interest rates - with a resulting rise in income (though those savings would still be plummeting in value in real terms :().

In truth I'll probably be disappointed because:

  • The inflation spike is forecast to be soon, and short-lived so action may not be required
  • The combination of Covid and Brexit has left the UK economy in a poor state and borrowing-fuelled spending is about the only thing keeping it going
  • A lot of the inflationary pressures are external, especially the cost of fuel and energy and raising interest rates wouldn't affect them

This Conservative government has demonstrated that so long as you have a largely "helpful" press, a fundamentally disinterested public and a lot of different kinds of bad news, then something which would have been a crisis for a Labour government with headlines for weeks about how badly the economy is being managed and how much worse off everyone is, barely warrants discussion.

At least pensioners, who form the core of Tory support, will be insulated from this. :rolleyes:

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Stripping out housing costs - which is arguably a better measure for someone like me who doesn't have a mortgage and who doesn't pay rent - makes it even worse:

Meanwhile, the retail price inflation (RPI) measure - which the ONS says is no longer accurate, but which is still used for inflation-linked government bonds and wage-bargaining - rose to 7.1% from 6%, its highest since March 1991.
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My monthly outgoings - including housing have risen in actual cash amount of £190 a month, and that is before next year's inevitable rise in Council tax. That is cost increases in weekly shopping, petrol, and energy costs. Those are all unavoidable rises for many people - especially the ones on lower earnings, the lower earnings folk are being shafted in all directions. And of course, there are the tax increases next April

Friends that have been renting the same 2-bedroom property for 8 years have been hit with a rent increase of £250 a month!

The poor are as ever suffering the most from the Tory decisions. Yet they still vote for them.
 
Darat said:
My monthly outgoings - including housing have risen in actual cash amount of £190 a month, and that is before next year's inevitable rise in Council tax. That is cost increases in weekly shopping, petrol, and energy costs. Those are all unavoidable rises for many people - especially the ones on lower earnings, the lower earnings folk are being shafted in all directions. And of course, there are the tax increases next April

Friends that have been renting the same 2-bedroom property for 8 years have been hit with a rent increase of £250 a month!

The poor are as ever suffering the most from the Tory decisions. Yet they still vote for them.
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Of course they do, because the problems are the fault of the last Labour government and the current Conservative one has been generous enough to provide loads of food banks while Labour provided nary a one :rolleyes:

There's a lot of noise in the press that wages are very nearly keeping up with inflation, but that ignores that this represents a contraction in lower paid roles rather than significant increases for those in low-paid work.
 
Meanwhile over here in the "This is probably useless, but it makes me feel a bit better" corner.

Our MP, Tory Girl Trevelyan, was spouting off in the local meejah recently that local folk are not interested in anything but local events and concerns. So I decided that she should be informed differently and so she is getting regular updates about the many things her constituents are actually interested in and why we are interested.

Strangely, the only response I've had is the auto reply from her Commons e-mail address...This is pretty typical for Tory Girl, the MP who told Carrot Flower Queen that cuts to local hospital services were not her concern. Can't even be arsed to get an aide to respond with some standard boiler plate...And they wonder why we hold them in such contempt...
 
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