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p0lka said:
They aren't law making though?

They get to temp block stuff with amendments etc, but the gov can force things through anyway.
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They can add to and amend bills, bills can start in the House of Lords so they are very much a legislative body. There are various constitutional constraints based on the House of Commons being the ultimate authority in the UK but that doesn't mean it isn't a legislative body.
 
Health Secretary Matt Hancock has insisted that local councils are best placed to ensure disadvantaged children don't go hungry
He said government support of councils was "the best way" to aid the "brilliant" community collaboration.
"I accept and I strongly believe that we should all come together to ensure that no child should go hungry."

He also said the prime minister had been communicating with footballer Marcus Rashford, who has been campaigning for free school meals since before the summer holidays.
However, Rashford challenged that suggestion on Twitter.
Downing Street sources later said they were not aware of any direct communication between the PM and Rashford.
 
So, those will be the councils whose funding from central goverenment has been consitently reduced since 2010 and have had to make cuts to education, social services and many other things? THose councils? Or Does Hancock have some others in mind?

And I use the word "mind" in its loosest sense...
 
Carrot Flower King said:
So, those will be the councils whose funding from central goverenment has been consitently reduced since 2010 and have had to make cuts to education, social services and many other things? THose councils? Or Does Hancock have some others in mind?

And I use the word "mind" in its loosest sense...
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Yes, exactly those councils and of course those councils with the greatest levels of depravation are the same councils which are most reliant on central government funding because of the limited scope they have for raising money in other ways.

IOW the councils with the most "undeserving poor" will be the ones hit hardest. :mad:
 
Captain_Swoop said:
He also said the prime minister had been communicating with footballer Marcus Rashford, who has been campaigning for free school meals since before the summer holidays.
However, Rashford challenged that suggestion on Twitter.
Downing Street sources later said they were not aware of any direct communication between the PM and Rashford.
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It does at least give me some hope that, in stark contrast to the current occupant of the White House, when Boris Johnson's lies are exposed, tends to fold like a cheap deck chair. Then again, it won't stop him telling the same lie tomorrow.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
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He also said the prime minister had been communicating with footballer Marcus Rashford, who has been campaigning for free school meals since before the summer holidays.
However, Rashford challenged that suggestion on Twitter.
Downing Street sources later said they were not aware of any direct communication between the PM and Rashford.
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I am shocked and dismayed. A Tory minister lying. Surely some mistake.
 
"Tory ministers have been slammed for slapping a “mask tax” on personal protective equipment (PPE) as the prices of key items look set to rise at the end of this week.

Surgical masks and gloves will cost more after the Government said a temporary waiver of VAT on PPE would not be extended.

The VAT hike will not affect reusable cloth face coverings, which are not covered by PHE's guidance. However, adults' clothes are already charged VAT at the 20% rate.

And the VAT hike will affect the characteristic blue, single-use 'Type IIR' face masks that are on sale to the general public.

While businesses will be able to claim back the VAT at a later date, any private families who buy medical-style masks will be forced to bear the cost of the tax hike.

Shadow Treasury Minister James Murray said: “It’s unbelievable that the Government wants to introduce a mask tax in the middle of a pandemic."

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/oth...o-rise-20-this-week/ar-BB1aoCZ4?ocid=msedgdhp
 
RolandRat said:
"Tory ministers have been slammed for slapping a “mask tax” on personal protective equipment (PPE) as the prices of key items look set to rise at the end of this week.

Surgical masks and gloves will cost more after the Government said a temporary waiver of VAT on PPE would not be extended.

The VAT hike will not affect reusable cloth face coverings, which are not covered by PHE's guidance. However, adults' clothes are already charged VAT at the 20% rate.

And the VAT hike will affect the characteristic blue, single-use 'Type IIR' face masks that are on sale to the general public.

While businesses will be able to claim back the VAT at a later date, any private families who buy medical-style masks will be forced to bear the cost of the tax hike.

Shadow Treasury Minister James Murray said: “It’s unbelievable that the Government wants to introduce a mask tax in the middle of a pandemic."

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/oth...o-rise-20-this-week/ar-BB1aoCZ4?ocid=msedgdhp
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You obviously haven't been keeping up with the news. The government need money to ensure that those in most need get a wholesome meal and drink to get them through the day. The Commons canteen needs it's subsidy to come from somewhere.
 
RolandRat said:
"Tory ministers have been slammed for slapping a “mask tax” on personal protective equipment (PPE) as the prices of key items look set to rise at the end of this week.

Surgical masks and gloves will cost more after the Government said a temporary waiver of VAT on PPE would not be extended.

The VAT hike will not affect reusable cloth face coverings, which are not covered by PHE's guidance. However, adults' clothes are already charged VAT at the 20% rate.

And the VAT hike will affect the characteristic blue, single-use 'Type IIR' face masks that are on sale to the general public.

While businesses will be able to claim back the VAT at a later date, any private families who buy medical-style masks will be forced to bear the cost of the tax hike.

Shadow Treasury Minister James Murray said: “It’s unbelievable that the Government wants to introduce a mask tax in the middle of a pandemic."

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/oth...o-rise-20-this-week/ar-BB1aoCZ4?ocid=msedgdhp
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What would be the point of the return to normal VAT if we weren’t in an pandemic and wearing masks are compulsory sort of compulsory but not really, nudge, dude, wink, wink? Now is the best time to make a killing!
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Health Secretary Matt Hancock has insisted that local councils are best placed to ensure disadvantaged children don't go hungry
He said government support of councils was "the best way" to aid the "brilliant" community collaboration.
"I accept and I strongly believe that we should all come together to ensure that no child should go hungry."

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The idiocy of Hancock is that those very same local authorities run the schools that are in the best place to feed children. It is more than likely that a local authority who is given money to feed school kids over the holidays, will just keep schools open to do that, as they are already set up to feed children.
 
Nessie said:
The idiocy of Hancock is that those very same local authorities run the schools that are in the best place to feed children. It is more than likely that a local authority who is given money to feed school kids over the holidays, will just keep schools open to do that, as they are already set up to feed children.
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Academy schools aren't run by the council.

Our local school is an Academy trust. It is one of 5 belonging to the same outfit.
Their catering is all contracted out.
 
remember that every lovingly-planned, delicious, nutritional school meal enjoyed at Eton, Harrow and similar private 'Public Schools' is heavily subsidised by taxpayers through the schools charity status.
 
Don't worry they'll come up with a 'new' scheme that will send money to mates, donors, friends and family that will duplicate (badly) what already exists and then try to claim. All to avoid saying 'sorry we got it wrong'.
 
Tory mayor Ben Houchen: "The Government is wrong and should reverse its decision on free school meals"

He said: "I’m not going to let party politics get in the way of doing what is right, and that is making sure children in Teesside, Darlington and Hartlepool do not go hungry during the school holidays.

"I’ve always said that we can only ever be as prosperous as the least fortunate in our communities. If we want our area to improve then we need to make it a place where everyone can succeed. That’s easier said than done and given the crisis we’re in it is even more difficult.
I think the Government is wrong not to extend this scheme into the October half-term, but I am not an MP. I do not have a say in this, but I am using the powers I have at my disposal and I’m proud to be funding this amazing scheme with Middlesbrough Foundation. A project that will feed 2,000 of the most vulnerable children in our area."

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/18822815.mayor-funds-campaign-help-feed-vulnerable-children/
 
Darat said:
They can add to and amend bills, bills can start in the House of Lords so they are very much a legislative body. There are various constitutional constraints based on the House of Commons being the ultimate authority in the UK but that doesn't mean it isn't a legislative body.
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They can add and amend, then it's sent back.
The gov can choose to accept the changes, or ping pong it and choose not.

At no point are the house of lord, lawmakers.
As you said they can amend,
It seems they can suggest, but they can't make laws.
edit: sorry for the offtopic.
 
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ISTR the power of the House of Lord's described as being able to say "Yes", or "Yes, but not for a few weeks".
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Don't worry they'll come up with a 'new' scheme that will send money to mates, donors, friends and family that will duplicate (badly) what already exists and then try to claim. All to avoid saying 'sorry we got it wrong'.
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Well apparently the voucher system is very bureaucratic and complicated... So again the government demonstrating that even they know they are incompetent!
 
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