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I've always been slightly puzzled by this. I understand there can be certain issues with 'interfering' with police investigations, but is there a specific legal issue with Sue Gray's report being published, albeit with some caveats about matters that have been referred to the police. ?

I can understand them not commenting on the actual police investigation, but the issue about not commenting AT ALL on any matter which is being investigated by the police always feels very convenient.
 
Worm said:
I've always been slightly puzzled by this. I understand there can be certain issues with 'interfering' with police investigations, but is there a specific legal issue with Sue Gray's report being published, albeit with some caveats about matters that have been referred to the police. ?

I can understand them not commenting on the actual police investigation, but the issue about not commenting AT ALL on any matter which is being investigated by the police always feels very convenient.
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Of course it is. After the police investigation is complete the Grey investigation will have to take it in to account, that will add another few months on to the process.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Tory head saying the Grey report must wait until the police investigation is complete.

So that's it in the 'long grass' until after the council elections then?
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Mission Accomplished then. :rolleyes:

As far as people in Westminster care, local elections are neither here nor there. If the Conservatives do okay in the local elections then they'll keep Boris Johnson in post.

If they go badly then they'll ditch him and rebrand.
 
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Multiple sources confirm Boris Johnson didn’t tell his cabinet of the police investigation *despite knowing before cabinet started the announcement was imminent*
This has caused Cabinet incredulity, I understand.
No10 says it was too “sensitive” to share with cabinet

Boris Johnson has NOT seen what Sue Gray has passed to the Met Police, No10 spokesman said
Asked if Boris Johnson would resign if he’s interviewed under caution, the spokesman said this was a hypothetical
Boris Johnson does not believe he broke the law, his spokesman said
The spokesman wouldn’t repeat that all coronavirus rules were followed at all times
 
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Multiple sources confirm Boris Johnson didn’t tell his cabinet of the police investigation *despite knowing before cabinet started the announcement was imminent*
This has caused Cabinet incredulity, I understand.
No10 says it was too “sensitive” to share with cabinet

Boris Johnson has NOT seen what Sue Gray has passed to the Met Police, No10 spokesman said
Asked if Boris Johnson would resign if he’s interviewed under caution, the spokesman said this was a hypothetical
Boris Johnson does not believe he broke the law, his spokesman said
The spokesman wouldn’t repeat that all coronavirus rules were followed at all times
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That's setting the bar pretty low given that he appears not to have understood what the law was and that he believes that the law doesn't apply to him.
 
The Don said:
That's setting the bar pretty low given that he appears not to have understood what the law was and that he believes that the law doesn't apply to him.
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No one told him and he was unable to tune into the No 10 broadcasts detailing the changes to the law as he was working* when they were on.


*'Real work' as opposed to 'cake, cheese and suitcases of wine work'.
 
Looks like Boris Johnson is relying on a supply of dead cats:

I have spoken to a few MPs who were poised to send their letters and emails when the Sue Gray inquiry reported. And they are now willing to wait for the Met.

That buys time for the PM. One of his colleagues said Johnson would be hoping people would get bored of the issue - especially in the face of potential conflict in Eastern Europe.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-...f024f1e0f9ce3d8e65236a&pinned_post_type=share

Sadly, I think that he's right. Another week or so and we'll all be bored of it. Another month or so and we'll have forgotten all about "Partygate" :mad:

This is how they get away with everything wait until the public are distracted by something shiny.
 
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Sadly, I think that he's right. Another week or so and we'll all be bored of it. Another month or so and we'll have forgotten all about "Partygate" :mad:

This is how they get away with everything wait until the public are distracted by something shiny.
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If you ask me, which you didn't, Partygate is the shiny distracting thing. Leaders all over the world have failed to follow their own rules. Boris just acted as Boris always acts. Who in their right mind is surprised that his personal moral rectitude hasn't been a blazing standard to guide the rest of us. It's not as if he has ever seriously presented himself as a moralist. If anybody genuinely supported him before, and is now genuinely turning their back on him on principle over this, then the workings of their mind baffles me.

I can't think of Boris without thinking of a nursery rhyme Private Eye printed years ago:

Oh dear, what can the matter be?
Boris got caught with Anna Fazackerley
They were at it from Monday to Saturday
His wife didn't know he was there.
 
I've been reading for a few hours now that the Met inquiry doesn't affect the release of the Grey report as the issues relate to fixed-penalty matters rather than criminal ones. Also a number of media sources are expecting the report to be released to #10 tonight and that it could be made public tomorrow.

I still think many of his own MPs will be furious if the report is withheld for a long spell or heavily redacted.
 
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I still think many of his own MPs will be furious if the report is withheld for a long spell or heavily redacted.
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Perhaps but all he would say is "so what"? Now he's bought off the anti-science Tory MPs he can't face a motion of no confidence.
 
Rishi Sunak accidentally went to Boris Johnson's No 10 birthday event

Apparently he was present when the birthday cake was served but was unaware it was going to happen as he'd gone to the room specifically for COVID strategy committee meeting.

He accidently went to the party thinking it was a meeting, the interior designer accidently went to the party as she wanted to speak to the PM about the wallpaper, Carrie accidently went to the meeting because.?

I can hear him now

"I accidentally entered a room full of drunk revellers singing 'Happy Birthday Big Dog', & spilling cheap beer over me. But I stayed to complete what I would later describe as a strategy meeting. After a slice of delightful cake & a polite amount of champagne, I promptly left."
 
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Rishi Sunak accidentally went to Boris Johnson's No 10 birthday event

Apparently he was present when the birthday cake was served but was unaware it was going to happen as he'd gone to the room specifically for COVID strategy committee meeting.

He accidently went to the party thinking it was a meeting, the interior designer accidently went to the party as she wanted to speak to the PM about the wallpaper, Carrie accidently went to the meeting because.?

I can hear him now

"I accidentally entered a room full of drunk revellers singing 'Happy Birthday Big Dog', & spilling cheap beer over me. But I stayed to complete what I would later describe as a strategy meeting. After a slice of delightful cake & a polite amount of champagne, I promptly left."
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Meanwhile Johnson was apparently "ambushed by cake"
 
I am shocked - shocked I tell you - at the appalling state of education provided by Eton and Oxford University!

Someone who attended both and was a member of that well-known party frat, the Bullingdon Club, cannot tell what is a party or not! How can that be?

This graduate of Sheffield and attendee at Durham Johnson School certainly knows a party when he sees one...

Waste of money on Eton and Oxford, eh?
 
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I am shocked - shocked I tell you - at the appalling state of education provided by Eton and Oxford University!

Someone who attended both and was a member of that well-known party frat, the Bullingdon Club, cannot tell what is a party or not! How can that be?

This graduate of Sheffield and attendee at Durham Johnson School certainly knows a party when he sees one...

Waste of money on Eton and Oxford, eh?
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It's not a party unless you've burned a few £50 notes under the noses of homeless people (and Johnson then scrabbles to pick up the ash)
 
Every single day they defend him, every single "ambushed with a cake" moment and 'thought it was work related' the stench of his lies and corruption sinks deeper in to the Tory Party lackeys.

It's like a smoker's old jacket in a charity shop, the smell won't ever come out.
 
The smell never did come out, they simply sprayed some Febreze on it, this is simply the tory party being the tory party with a man with no sense of shame at the top.

Go back even 10 years and there would be no way a PM could have stayed in place being investigated by civil servants and the police with such unambiguous evidence.
 
Carrot Flower King said:
I am shocked - shocked I tell you - at the appalling state of education provided by Eton and Oxford University!

Someone who attended both and was a member of that well-known party frat, the Bullingdon Club, cannot tell what is a party or not! How can that be?

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I do have some sympathy for them, when your life has been nothing but a party it's hard to recognise any separate party from the miasma of his life.
 
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