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Tolls said:
Go to the "Who started the wars" thread then and argue your point. You'll fail because that's the sort of nonsens 911 attempted to argue and failed soundly (except in his head).

"They were not attacked" is not an argument when talking about treaties, guarantees and alliances. Britain was not attacked in 1914, but had a treaty obligation to Belgium. Similar to 1939.
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"Protecting Poland" and talk about treaties, guarantees and alliances ceased to be an argument after the Soviet invasion of Poland on September 17, 1939. Even if Great Britain and France had honored their promises of protecting Poland by declaring war on the Soviet Union, it would not have changed the fact that GB and France declared war on Germany, not vice versa. You can argue over who was the aggressor but you can't argue over who declared war.
 
Dogzilla said:
"Protecting Poland" and talk about treaties, guarantees and alliances ceased to be an argument after the Soviet invasion of Poland on September 17, 1939. Even if Great Britain and France had honored their promises of protecting Poland by declaring war on the Soviet Union, it would not have changed the fact that GB and France declared war on Germany, not vice versa. You can argue over who was the aggressor but you can't argue over who declared war.
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There is nothing in the Anglo-Polish agreement of 1939 that would require Great Britain to declare a state of war with anyone other than Germany.
Indeed you can't argue over who declared war, it was clearly Great Britain and France who declared war. Germany did not declare war on Poland. Neither did it declare war on the Soviet Union in 1941.
 
little grey rabbit said:
They didn't initiate war against France and Britain either. They issued an ultimatum and then declared war when Germany did not obey.
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That's just a dodge.

They had treaties with Poland. When Poland was invaded they had the decency to issue an ultimatum first, before declaring war. They should have just declared war immediately, but bought some time with the ultimatum to prepare for the inevitable war.
 
little grey rabbit said:
This seems a very difficult point for Hoaxsters to grasp.
Taking an overcoat does not equal death. Shooting someone in a pit at Ponar or Liepaja does equal death. Should be easy to grasp.
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How many German soldiers died on the bitter retreat from the USSR due to lack of suitable clothing?

Were Jews somehow immune to the winter cold?
 
Clayton Moore said:
Population supporting the war? That's rich.

And guess what? Zionists have been up to their wallets punishing the German population ever since.

The US has been going at it in two wars for almost a decade. And guess what? The US lied to its population to justify starting the wars!

And guess what? Neocon Zionists are the group that instigated those LIES.


Surprise!
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Yeah, surprise, it's all the fault of those darn joos again.

Why is it that you hate them?
 
Oh, it's envy, then?

Well, it usually is.

BTW, if the eeeeeevil Joooooz have so much money and power, I am sure not getting my part of the action, that's for damn sure.

I'm a bit disappointed, though, I thought someone who hates the Jews that much would have something more original than "the Jews' got all the money" as the reason for the whole thing.
 
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Clayton Moore said:
People with great wealth have great power. Power corrupts.
Connect the dots. Deal with it.
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Even granting for the sake of argument that the Jews have an extraordinary amount of both wealth and power (items you have yet to even attempt to prove -- how many of, let's say, the Forbes list of of richest people in the world are Jews?) you seem to be arguing that only the impoverished and impotent are pure.

Shall we posit that you consider yourself part of that group?
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Clayton Moore said:
Population supporting the war? That's rich.
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So it wasn't Germans then serving in the branches of the German military? It wasn't Germans working in the factories of the Reich building the weapons of war? That is support. You can argue that support was largely coerced, but it was support nonetheless.
 
Dogzilla said:
"Protecting Poland" and talk about treaties, guarantees and alliances ceased to be an argument after the Soviet invasion of Poland on September 17, 1939. Even if Great Britain and France had honored their promises of protecting Poland by declaring war on the Soviet Union, it would not have changed the fact that GB and France declared war on Germany, not vice versa. You can argue over who was the aggressor but you can't argue over who declared war.
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If Germany doesn't invade Poland, the war does not start. Germany's initial act started the dominoes falling. Moreover, it was warned ahead of time what an invasion of Poland would entail. It did so anyway.
 
TSR said:
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Even granting for the sake of argument that the Jews have an extraordinary amount of both wealth and power (items you have yet to even attempt to prove -- how many of, let's say, the Forbes list of of richest people in the world are Jews?) you seem to be arguing that only the impoverished and impotent are pure.

Shall we posit that you consider yourself part of that group?
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U get an AAA double talk rating.
 
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