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TSR said:
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And yet, you have to refer to an article from 2006.

Tell you what: produce a story about the Holocaust from today from at least four sources, and you get a six month pass, too.

On each from the major media, by academia, by politicians, and by the government.

That *was* your claim, right? Every freaking day, by the major media, by academia, by politicians, and by the government.
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No, his claim was "of the complete degenerate filth that the media broadcasts to the world EVERY FREAKING DAY"

Not even major media. Just media. You filled in the rest.
 
Dogzilla said:
No, his claim was "of the complete degenerate filth that the media broadcasts to the world EVERY FREAKING DAY"

Not even major media. Just media. You filled in the rest.
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Only Nazis use the word degenerate in that sense. Straight out of Mein Kampf. Why do you hate Jews?
 
Saggy said:
Well, that's a fine example of pure idiocy. Not funny, was it supposed to be? Just plain stupid.

But never mind, here is some imagery from Weisel that doesn't allude to Christianity in any way, and is typical of the holohoax, i.e. this is the type of imagery you revel in, so I'm sure you'll like it ...

"The soldiers threw babies in the air and the machine gunners used them as targets."

For degenerate lies like this he received the Nobel Prize for Peace.
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And you're back to the broken record.

Saggy, there are more than 10,000 surviving witnesses to Auschwitz, not to mention much other evidence.

On what possible grounds can cherrypicking remarks from a single memoir written in the late 1950s suffice to disprove all of the evidence?
 
Nick Terry said:
And you're back to the broken record.

Saggy, there are more than 10,000 surviving witnesses to Auschwitz, not to mention much other evidence.

On what possible grounds can cherrypicking remarks from a single memoir written in the late 1950s suffice to disprove all of the evidence?
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Desperation,ignorance and anti Semitism.
 
Is Saggy aware that the bit about babies being thrown in the air is something that Wiesel attributes to someone entirely different, i.e., not his own experience, in Night?
 
Nick Terry said:
And you're back to the broken record.

Saggy, there are more than 10,000 surviving witnesses to Auschwitz, not to mention much other evidence.

On what possible grounds can cherrypicking remarks from a single memoir written in the late 1950s suffice to disprove all of the evidence
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Saggy, there are more than 10,000 surviving witnesses to Auschwitz, not to mention much other evidence.

And yet, according to Yehuda Bauer, director of Yad Vashem, there is only one credible eyewitness, Felip Meuller, who saw the Jewish people die and lived to tell of it. Makes one wonder about the credibility of the other 9999.

On what possible grounds can cherrypicking remarks from a single memoir written in the late 1950s suffice to disprove all of the evidence?

Quite simple really, Weisel is the epitome of the holohoax. I did not award him the Nobel Prize, I did not make him the first director of the USHMM, the holohoax establishment did that. The cherrypicked quote demonstrates that he is a degenerate and pathological liar. This is the man the holohoax establishment elevated to its top rank. His lies implicate the entire holohoax establishment, top to bottom.
 
The way some folks here first deny the holocaust and then are annoyed when called antisemites remind me of David Irving's argument in the Deborah Lipdstadt trial. He sued her, you see, so as to stop the dirty Jews from continuing their international conspiracy of lies against him that uses all that money they've got to label him an antisemite.

Yes, I am paraphrasing, but not by much. Some people have no self-awareness at all.
 
Skeptic said:
The way some folks here first deny the holocaust and then are annoyed when called antisemites remind me of David Irving's argument in the Deborah Lipdstadt trial. He sued her, you see, so as to stop the dirty Jews from continuing their international conspiracy of lies against him that uses all that money they've got to label him an antisemite.

Yes, I am paraphrasing, but not by much. Some people have no self-awareness at all.
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My personal fave from I v. L was (lightly paraphrased): "I shall prove that I am not a Holocaust denier by denying the Holocaust in open court!"
 
MG1962 said:
Saggy could you point out anyone who was charged or found guilty as a direct consequence of Wiesel's writings. Giwer, feel free to step in as well if you feel you can contribute
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Nothing to chime in on. The man admitted he never saw any gassing and that the made up the belching crematoria. So far as unbelievers are concerned he has completely discredited himself and is not worth further comment.
 
Matt Giwer said:
Nothing to chime in on. The man admitted he never saw any gassing and that the made up the belching crematoria. So far as unbelievers are concerned he has completely discredited himself and is not worth further comment.
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That wasn't the question I asked. Regardless of what he wrote, who was disadvantaged by his writings
 
Matt Giwer said:
I have been moderated for accusing people of being zionists.
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And rightly so, if they did not express any opinion on Israel.

Note that expressing an opinion on the Holocaust which is contrary to revisionist dogma does not make one a 'Zionist'. Acceptance of the historical record of what happened in Europe between 1939-45 implies absolutely nothing about someone's views on the Middle East.

So I'm guessing you slung around your favourite insult inappropriately, and were called on it.

By contrast, Holocaust deniers are de facto apologists for National Socialism.
 
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