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LOL! All posters beware of the RODOH rabbit, an escaped RODOH
mental patient who is hiding out here, hoping to avoid recapture.
The Rabbit used to post under the handle "jnovitz" at CODOH trying
to pass himself off as the NZ novelist Julian Novitz. The real Mr Novitz
registered at RODOH to disavow the rabbit and deemed rabbit's
opus, "appalling ********."
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Moderated content removed.
That Rabbit has a long history as an imposter is not really significant.
His logic and opinions fail to impress on their own merits. In this case,
he has pretended to address the issue of the complete lack of eyewitness
verification of AR transit camps while offering (surprise) absolutely no
eyewitness verification.
Pooshoodog opens his mouth and pops a falsehood. What is new?
1. I have consisently and continually denied being "jnovitz", who was posting at CODOH long before I began posting at RODOH.
2. "jnovitz" never claimed, to my knowledge, to be a New Zealand writer Julian Novitz. In fact some time before the said Julian Novitz turned up, "jnovitz" had said her name was Judith.
3. "jnovitz" was a shared handle
4. the only person that I am certain posted under "jnovitz" was pooshoodog.
As I said pooshoodog is noted over at RODOH for frequently engaging in mendaciousness. He ran a whole gamut of fake revisionist or denier accounts over there including "armdgard" and "Mr Hitler" (and partly "jnovitz" of CODOH as well)
His most notable contribution as "Mr Hitler" was the revelation that the Jews of Kiev had been processed for relocation at the Zenit stadium and not gone anywhere near Babi Yar.
Out of the mouths of babes and sucklings come all manner of things.
You can't take it off the table, you didn't put in on the table, so you can't take it off.
And, you're wrong, the holohoax was created in the gas chambers. That's the whole story right there.
But, let's suppose you're right, and the holohoax was NOT created in the gas chambers.
Still, there is a more fundamental point that you are missing, and here it is .... since there are no gas chambers now, and never were any gas chambers, the people promoting the holohoax, the generations of Jewish 'survivors' that have been telling us about the gas chambers, and describing their relatives getting gassed, and their own miraculous and narrow escapes, for the last 60 years or so, and the hoax scholars that have been compiling the numbers of people gassed, are degenerate liars the likes of which the world has never seen. Surely you have to agree with this !
No the definition of a Holocaust is not "using gas chambers to kill large numbers of people."
The definition of a Holocaust is
hol·o·caust (hl-kôst, hl-)
n.
1. Great destruction resulting in the extensive loss of life, especially by fire.
2.
a. Holocaust The genocide of European Jews and others by the Nazis during World War II: "Israel emerged from the Holocaust and is defined in relation to that catastrophe" (Emanuel Litvinoff).
b. A massive slaughter: "an important document in the so-far sketchy annals of the Cambodian holocaust" (Rod Nordland).
3. A sacrificial offering that is consumed entirely by flames.
You see, no mention of gas chambers there.
So even if there are no gas chambers it doesn't suddenly make all of the Jews and others rounded up and led to their death, not a holocaust.
Hiroshima is a nuclear holocaust. So we get some distinction there. But no one that I know of refers to the Holocaust as a "Gas Chambers Holocaust"
Ten years ago, on 6th April 1994, one of the most dreadful campaigns of mass murder was unleashed upon the Tutsi people of Rwanda. In just 100 days, more people had been slaughtered with machetes and clubs than had died from atomic weapons in all of history.
No the definition of a Holocaust is not "using gas chambers to kill large numbers of people."
The definition of a Holocaust is
hol·o·caust (hl-kôst, hl-)
n.
1. Great destruction resulting in the extensive loss of life, especially by fire.
2.
a. Holocaust The genocide of European Jews and others by the Nazis during World War II: "Israel emerged from the Holocaust and is defined in relation to that catastrophe" (Emanuel Litvinoff).
b. A massive slaughter: "an important document in the so-far sketchy annals of the Cambodian holocaust" (Rod Nordland).
3. A sacrificial offering that is consumed entirely by flames.
You see, no mention of gas chambers there.
So even if there are no gas chambers it doesn't suddenly make all of the Jews and others rounded up and led to their death, not a holocaust.
Hiroshima is a nuclear holocaust. So we get some distinction there. But no one that I know of refers to the Holocaust as a "Gas Chambers Holocaust"
Well, I agree with everything you said there, but you're missing the point of my post which was this ...
If there are no gas chambers and never were any gas chambers, then the people claiming that there were gas chambers (which includes countless 'survivors' and the whole holocaust establishment, btw) are degenerate liars the likes of which the world has never seen.
Well, I agree with everything you said there, but you're missing the point of my post which was this ...
If there are no gas chambers and never were any gas chambers, then the people claiming that there were gas chambers (which includes countless 'survivors' and the whole holocaust establishment, btw) are degenerate liars the likes of which the world has never seen.
Not at all. As has been discussed, people in a traumatic situation could have easily misconstrued what was going on. In addition I'm sure gas chambers were used. Perhaps not in the way that has been historically suggested but it stands to reason that if you have mass starvation and disease in a camp, as has been the argument thus far, that if you have diseased sick people showing up at the camps that will just continue to waste resources, you might choose to "get it over with" and kill them.
It was a brutal situation.
In addition which you continually ignore, MOST of the documentation came from the Germans themselves. You can't rely solely on the "eye witness" testimony of the prisoners in the camps because A. they have been sick and B. they don't know really what is going on. It is easy to misconstrue facts in this case. It doesn't make them degenerate liars if this is what they were told what was happening when they got to the camp and this is what it seemed like was happening after they got there.
Gas Chambers were explained by the Germans. Not the inmates. The inmates backed up the story, they didn't invent it.
Why would Germans say there were gas chambers if there were not?
More importantly why do Germans NOW continue to say there are gas chambers if history has proven this not true? Why would a country not take the opportunity to exonerate it's name, if it didn't happen? Why hasn't Germany jumped on the bandwagon?
But, you said you were taking the gas chambers off the table. Now, you're saying you know gas chambers were used to gas Jews.
Can't have it both ways.
The thing is, it's easy to show the gas chambers are a total hoax. Easy to understand, easy to demonstrate. How? Just look at the only two hoax gas chambers in existence, at Auschwitz and Majdanek. Both have large plate glass windows. It doesn't get any more obvious than that. See for yourself at
So, since the gas chambers are an obvious hoax, and right at the heart of the entire holohoax, the whole thing is a pack of degenerate lies.
See, it's easy to demonstrate the hoax. We could have started anywhere, with the testimony, with the lack of bodies, with the 'confessions', or with the documents, and the conclusion would be the same, all are easily demonstrated hoaxes. It can't get any easier than demonstrating the hoax via the hoax gas chambers however.
Sure he can. He's only withdrawing the gas chambers to demonstrate a point — not because he doesn't believe they were there. If you agree to that stipulation, then and only then is he bound to make his argument without gas chambers.
The thing is, it's easy to show the gas chambers are a total hoax. Easy to understand, easy to demonstrate. How? Just look at the only two hoax gas chambers in existence, at Auschwitz and Majdanek. Both have large plate glass windows. It doesn't get any more obvious than that. See for yourself at
That's an immensely illogical jump, I hope you're aware.
See, it's easy to demonstrate the hoax. We could have started anywhere, with the testimony, with the lack of bodies, with the 'confessions', or with the documents, and the conclusion would be the same, all are easily demonstrated hoaxes. It can't get any easier than demonstrating the hoax via the hoax gas chambers however.
Except it's been repeatedly demonstrated to you that these things did in fact happen and that the evidence is voluminous. But you refuse to believe, because you hate the Jews, and you wish you could have taken part in such things.
The thing is, it's easy to show the gas chambers are a total hoax. Easy to understand, easy to demonstrate. How? Just look at the only two hoax gas chambers in existence, at Auschwitz and Majdanek.
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What about the gas chamber at Dachau? Found those pics you said you had showing that the shower heads were functional? Figured out why a shower room would need not one but *two* bins, open to the outside but screened?
And what happened to all those people who were documented as having gone to those two camps, and were never heard from again? What Happened To Henio?
Keep lying, Saggs, and I'll keep pointing it out. Deal? .
But, you said you were taking the gas chambers off the table. Now, you're saying you know gas chambers were used to gas Jews.
Can't have it both ways.
The thing is, it's easy to show the gas chambers are a total hoax. Easy to understand, easy to demonstrate. How? Just look at the only two hoax gas chambers in existence, at Auschwitz and Majdanek. Both have large plate glass windows. It doesn't get any more obvious than that. See for yourself at
So, since the gas chambers are an obvious hoax, and right at the heart of the entire holohoax, the whole thing is a pack of degenerate lies.
See, it's easy to demonstrate the hoax. We could have started anywhere, with the testimony, with the lack of bodies, with the 'confessions', or with the documents, and the conclusion would be the same, all are easily demonstrated hoaxes. It can't get any easier than demonstrating the hoax via the hoax gas chambers however.
I've said this several times and you've ignored it each time. Take the "stigma" of gas chambers off the table.
Let's look at reality.
You've got a huge influx of prisoners to the camp. Severely limited resources. Very sick people inside the camp and sick people coming in.
Take the idea of the "gas chamber" outside the paradigm of another Stephen Spielberg blockbuster.
Are you seriously telling us, that it is inconceivable to you that the Nazis may have decided to just "get it over with" and execute people coming into the camp that did not stand to make it due to age or poor health?
Are you seriously going to make this argument?
I will be a flat out vicious but honest bastard. If I ran a camp that was importing more people than could survive, if people were dying by the hundreds every week. And I got trainloads of new people with babies and sick and old people. I would probably feel obligated to select those members for the camp that I felt had the best chance for survival.
And so I'd exterminate the others. The most efficient manner possible would be via gassing. Gassing is still used as a method of execution today in some parts of the world. You bring them in, dump the clothes and gas. Done.
It's reality.
Your trumped up and dramatic version has nothing to do with reality. Nor does yours and others dismantling of the illusion.
The fact remains that the Holocaust did not start in the gas chamber. It started with rounding up the Jews, it started with the anti Jewish laws passed in Germany, and other things.
One way we know they did this is because they SEPARATED PEOPLE. Why did they do that? Odd that those separated were never seen again with a clear consistency. HELLO?
"tis unfortunate that the Nazis are left with an erroneous legacy. But it actually seems to match the intensity of disgust felt by the rest of the world.
Found those pics you said you had showing that the shower heads were functional? Figured out why a shower room would need not one but *two* bins, open to the outside but screened?
Please provide evidence that there are people who were sent to one of those two camps who were never heard from again.
(Suggestion for possible evidence: the names of specific people who were never heard from again after being sent to one (or both) of those two camps and whose names do not appear on any death registry for whom a search has been conducted.)
In the event you are unable to provide evidence for your claims, the answers are:
1) As has been explained to you before, I believe, they didn't go anywhere ***because they never existed***
.
Okay, let's start with Hana Brady. I won't even ask you to read a book, there was a CBC documentary called "Hana's Suitcase" which documents her fate.
Your turn: please provide evidence that she was ever heard from again. .
Oh, that's right -- you don't care about actually learning what happened to him.
Remind me again: which historian has documented the use of the "electric floor?"
Exactly none?
Okay, then who was ever convicted of using this mode of murder?
What's that?
Exactly none again?
Well, since Henio wasn't there, and no one has said that such a floor existed, one would wonder why you brought it up, if one didn't already know that making fun of the victims of the Nazis was your stock in trade. .
So, since the gas chambers are an obvious hoax, and right at the heart of the entire holohoax, the whole thing is a pack of degenerate lies.
See, it's easy to demonstrate the hoax. We could have started anywhere, with the testimony, with the lack of bodies, with the 'confessions', or with the documents, and the conclusion would be the same, all are easily demonstrated hoaxes. It can't get any easier than demonstrating the hoax via the hoax gas chambers however.
"It can't get any easier," according to Saggy, but I am guessing that
Saggy, <snip>, has never convinced a solitary soul
that those gas chambers didn't exist. How about Saggy demonstrating
his successful proof of gas chamber non-existance by posting a list of
all those who failed to understand the falsity of those Nazi gas chambers
until he swayed them with his easily comprehended logic.
<snip>
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Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic Posted By: Locknar
I should have been more specific. I was wondering if in any other genocide the perpetrators have dug up bodies and burned them to try and erase the evidence of their crimes. Is that what happened in Bosnia? I see articles about bodies being burned and mutilated in Bosnia but it doesn't sound like the burning was done to erase evidence.
Right, the nazis were possibly unique in their evil. So?
P.S. So you now admit that the nazis killed a mass of people then burned their bodies to try to conceal evidence of their crimes, right? Furthermore, you admit that what happened to the Jews, Roma, Gays, and others during the nazi regime was, in fact, genocide?
The AR camps were delousing facilities. Don't AR camps narratives include a part about how all the Jews were "deceived" into thinking they were stopping for a delousing? Aren't there stories about Jews being told to 'raus raus' or the water will get cold"?
What else could those facilities be? Treblinka, e.g., was a very tiny camp. Over 700,000 people were sent there according to German wartime records.
They sure as h**l weren't murdered there because there's no evidence of that happening.
They stopped. They got clean. They went on their merry way.
Dogzilla is one mighty evasive dodger. Did I somehow miss Dogz's post
regarding the thousands who described transit camp Treblinka? With 700,
000 plus survivors the accumulation of diaries, letters, memoirs and
interviews would be impressive, particularly considering that many literary
figures from a notably literate culture are alleged, by your esteemed self,
to have "got clean" at Transit Camp Treblinka.
What about this diary, Dogzilla, the diary of Little Sarah Kornblum?
"30/10/1942
Were given showers and fresh clothes at a little stop off deep in the
woods by the most picturesque railroad station you can imagine. As we
were getting off the train a terrifying man garbed in black, with skull and
cross bones emblazoned, ordered his large dog to attack us. As the dog
prepared to pounce he suddenly rolled over on his back, wagged his tail,
and allowed the children to rub his belly. The man then gave us bags of
Halloween candy and rubbed our heads fondly."
Don't continue to make me do your research, Dogzilla. Find your own
writings by those tens of thousands who went on their merry way. And
post some of these snippets. If you are going to continue to depend
on me to provide you with conformation that the vastly visited Transit
Camp Treblinka is corroberated in the inevitable universe of literary
expression, you will continue to appear to be inept.
BTW, Dogzilla, your statement
"They sure as h**l weren't murdered there because there's no
evidence of that happening.
Is quite blatently a lie. As you must be aware, Soviet Investigators
found and documented vast fields of ashes and bone fragments found
at Treblinka, but since they were Soviets we automatically get to
assert that they were lying hoaxters. I know the rules of the revisionist
board game called ******** which gives each player a "nullify the
document card" to be used as often as needed.
<snip>
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Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic Posted By: Locknar
“There is no evidence the gas chambers or mass graves existed. Even reputable Holocaust historians have admitted it cannot be established,” Norway MP Anders Mathisen told the Finnmarken newspaper, while challenging readers to prove that his views are inaccurate.
"Norway prohibits hate speech, and defines it as publicly making statements that threaten or ridicule someone or that incite hatred, persecution or contempt for someone due to their skin colour, ethnic origin, homosexual life style or orientation or, religion or philosophy of life"
So, it will be interesting to see if Mathison is prosecuted.
The holocaust is an obvious hoax, start to finish. You only have to look at the 'evidence' for it, for example the writings of Nobel Prize Winner Elie Weisel, who writes ...
"Babies were thrown into the air and the machine gunners used them as targets."
This is the type of idiocy that passes as holocaust testimony. The word is getting out.
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