Merged General Holocaust denial discussion thread

[TSR]

It couldn't be that Kaltenbrunner is the liar?

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Of course, Saggy has been corrected on his claim that Kaltenbrunner was the only one charged with having an operational role in the Holocaust.

And not only that: Saggy has run, every time zie brings up Kaltenbrunner from the text of his telegram to Herbert Kappler, to whit:

It is precisely the immediate and thorough eradication of the Jews in Italy which is the special interest of the present internal political situation and the general security in Italy.

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Saggy is, to borrow a phrase, a degenerate liar.
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[Saggy]

Let's see witness after witness, Germans btw, testify that Kaltenbrunner ordered them to kill the Jews. But Kaltenbrunner says they are all liars so case closed, they must all be liars.

We don't need Kaltenbrunner's testimony to know that the holocaust is a hoax.

The point of Kaltenbrunner's testimony is that contrary to the degenerate lies of the Jews, no defendant confessed to anything at Nuremberg, and the only one person charged with a role in the holohoax testified that the charge was preposterous.

 

[TSR]

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And has also been pointed out, Charles Manson never confessed to murder.

Does this mean that the Tates and the LaBiancas simply emigrated to the East?
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[truethat]

We don't need Kaltenbrunner's testimony to know that the holocaust is a hoax.

The point of Kaltenbrunner's testimony is that contrary to the degenerate lies of the Jews, no defendant confessed to anything at Nuremberg, and the only one person charged with a role in the holohoax testified that the charge was preposterous.

And so this means that the witneses upon witnesses that testified to the use of gas chambers should be tossed out because the man accused of ordering it denies it?

I hope people are reading this.

 

[Thunder]

There is now legislation in many states mandating that the holohoax be taught in public schools in ALL grades starting with KINDERGARTEN.

lies, lies, and more lies.

 

[Saggy]

And so this means that the witneses upon witnesses that testified to the use of gas chambers ....

You're hallucinating. Here's what Yehuda Bauer had to say in the preface to 'Three Years in the Gas Chambers' by F. Mueller, Bauer being the research director at Yad Vashem, so, in a position to know ..... from the same site ....

"This is a unique document indeed, it is the testimony of the only man who saw the Jewish people die and lived to tell what he saw."

So, in Dr. Bauer's learned view, there was only one credible witness to the gassings. You only have to read Mueller's book to know it is ..... yep ... degenerate phantasmagoria.

I hope everyone will read 'Three Years in a Gas Chamber' by Filip Mueller. You only need to read the 'testimony' of the 'survivors' to know that the holocaust is a complete hoax.

 

[Saggy]

lies, lies, and more lies.

Just so.

You can check on the holohoax legislation relating to education in your state here .....

http://www.ushmm.org/education/foreducators/states/

HTH

 

[truethat]

You're hallucinating. Here's what Yehuda Bauer had to say in the preface to 'Three Years in the Gas Chambers' by F. Mueller, Bauer being the research director at Yad Vashem, so, in a position to know ..... from the same site ....

"This is a unique document indeed, it is the testimony of the only man who saw the Jewish people die and lived to tell what he saw."

So, in Dr. Bauer's learned view, there was only one credible witness to the gassings. You only have to read Mueller's book to know it is ..... yep ... degenerate phantasmagoria.

I hope everyone will read 'Three Years in a Gas Chamber' by Filip Mueller. You only need to read the 'testimony' of the 'survivors' to know that the holocaust is a complete hoax.

Wait so you are saying the transcript of the testimony is filled with lies then? Because if the interviewer says "Witnesses upon Witnesses" and he's lying, then how can we trust any of the testimony at all?

You can't pick and choose what evidence you'd like to believe. That would make you a religious person.

 

[Saggy]

Wait so you are saying the transcript of the testimony is filled with lies then? Because if the interviewer says "Witnesses upon Witnesses" and he's lying, then how can we trust any of the testimony at all?

There was no real trial. The 'testimony' is worthless. It was a show trial start to finish. It even had one of the judges from the prototype show trials in Moscow. Judge Iona T. Nikitchenko, who presided at Nuremberg's solemn opening session, was a vice-chairman of the supreme court of the USSR before and after his service at Nuremberg. In August 1936 he had been a judge at the infamous Moscow show trial of Zinoviev and Kamenev. How absurd does it have to be?

Bauer says there is only one credible eyewitness. What do you have to say about that?

Here's what I say - the one credible witness is a pathological liar, and one only has to read his book to know it. That is, you don't need to know any history or anything at all about WW II, the book is so absurd it is prima facie complete phantasmagoria.

 

[pooshoodog]

We don't need Kaltenbrunner's testimony to know that the holocaust is a hoax.

The point of Kaltenbrunner's testimony is that contrary to the degenerate lies of the Jews, no defendant confessed to anything at Nuremberg, and the only one person charged with a role in the holohoax testified that the charge was preposterous.

So, according to Saggy, no one was tortured and forced to confess?
LOL! That leaves deniers up **** creek. If Saggy troubled himself to
read even a small amount of IMT testimony he would find plenty of
testimony about mass murder and genocide. That those charged merely
denied their own role is a standard expectation.

I'm still waiting for this liar to post his promised proof that Soviet
investigators stated that no mass graves were found at Treblinka.

Why do we bother with this ******?

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[Cl1mh4224rd]

Judge: "We're heard from a number of people who claim you did what you've been accused of doing. What do you have to say?"
Defendant: "I'm innocent."
Judge: "Good enough for me. Bailiff, escort the contradicting witnesses to a prison cell. Case dismissed."

 

[Wroclaw]

Go figure:

http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20...1/Nazi-chief's-seal-found-in-Alpine-lake.html

 

[Dogzilla]

Is it too much to say: "although I believe the suffering of Jews was without parallel in human history, it would be sensible if community leaders did exercise a little bit of quality control before targeting the young?"

I mean all I am asking is a "no soup with human remains" policy here. I am not disputing human soap, I am not disputing human lampshades, I am not disputing human fertilizer. Just one little plea....no human soup. Is it really so much to ask?

Let me bend over backwards and be charitable - perhaps she genuinely believed she might have been given human remains soup at Auschwitz. Still could not a case be made that someone could step aside and say "Eva, you treasure, no one else remembers human remains soup. Is it possible you might have been mistaken? Why not substitute it with a story about how you were taken to a gas chamber and then water came out of the shower heads instead. That always goes down well."

I agree that the lack of quality control among the survivor speaker circuit is appalling. No story is too far fetched when it comes to the holocaust. It doesn't matter if what you say about the holocaust is true as long as what you say sounds really bad.

I can remember when unpeeled potatoes in the soup was considered an atrocity. Today, if you're not digging gold and diamonds out of your feces and drinking urine, you ain't nothing.

 

[Thunder]

Just so.

You can check on the holohoax legislation relating to education in your state here .....

http://www.ushmm.org/education/foreducators/states/

HTH

AGE APPROPRIATENESS
Students in grades 6 and above demonstrate the ability to empathize with individual eyewitness accounts and to attempt to understand the complexities of this history, including the scope and scale of the events. While elementary students are able to empathize with individual accounts, they often have difficulty placing them in a larger historical context. Such demonstrable developmental differences have traditionally shaped social studies curricula throughout the country; in most states, students are not introduced to European history and geography—the context of the Holocaust—before middle school. Elementary school can be an ideal location to begin discussion of the value of diversity and the danger of bias and prejudice. These critical themes can be addressed through local and national historical events; this will be reinforced during later study of the Holocaust.


kindergarten......huh Saggy????


just keep those lies rolling.

 

[Saggy]

AGE APPROPRIATENESS
Students in grades 6 and above demonstrate the ability to empathize with individual eyewitness accounts and to attempt to understand the complexities of this history, including the scope and scale of the events. While elementary students are able to empathize with individual accounts, they often have difficulty placing them in a larger historical context. Such demonstrable developmental differences have traditionally shaped social studies curricula throughout the country; in most states, students are not introduced to European history and geography—the context of the Holocaust—before middle school. Elementary school can be an ideal location to begin discussion of the value of diversity and the danger of bias and prejudice. These critical themes can be addressed through local and national historical events; this will be reinforced during later study of the Holocaust.


kindergarten......huh Saggy????


just keep those lies rolling.

<snip> The site referenced shows the Florida Manual for holohoax education grades K-3. K, get it, KINDERGARTEN. Google it, it is available online.

Here is one of the questions from the K-3 manual to ask the students .... "What does prejudice smell like?" ..... one word for the people who created this manual ..... degenerates. Our children are being taught 'tolerance' by the worst racists in the world .... let's google the quote that tells the whole story .... "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail", New York Rabbi Ya'acov Perin in his eulogy at the funeral of mass murderer Dr. Baruch Goldstein.

I'm going to take a break for a few days ... getting too worked up ..... LOL... <snip>

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[Thunder]

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The site referenced shows the Florida Manual for holohoax education grades K-3. K, get it, KINDERGARTEN. Google it, it is available online.

provide a link, or it doesn't exist.

oh, and I clicked on all the links on the Florida page. they are all empty.

your claim....your fame. provide links to your claim..or admit its a lie.

 

[Dogzilla]

So, according to Saggy, no one was tortured and forced to confess?
LOL! That leaves deniers up **** creek. If Saggy troubled himself to
read even a small amount of IMT testimony he would find plenty of
testimony about mass murder and genocide.

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Yes, there is plenty of testimony. But as our esteemed scholar TSR has pointed out, was this testimony about mass murder and genocide believed by the IMT? Was a single defendant ever convicted based upon testimony about mass murder and genocide? Has any historian ever relied upon the testimony of any witness heard by the IMT? Just because a statement of fact is mentioned in the indictment, testified to by witnesses, and reiterated in the verdict you can't prove it was believed by anybody.

I'm still waiting for this liar to post his promised proof that Soviet
investigators stated that no mass graves were found at Treblinka.

It does not matter what the Soviet investigators said about mass graves at Treblinka. Compare the documentation the Soviets came up with for Katyn vs Treblinka. There's no reason to believe the Soviets even conducted any sort of investigation other than your own gullibility.

 

[pooshoodog]

Does anyone here notice that Saggy is practitioner of serial non sequituirs?
He hops from assertion to assertion like a Kangaroo on crystal meth, and
abandons more statements than a mosquito lays eggs. I'm waiting on some
sort of explanation for Saggy's contention that Kaltenbrunner's IMT testimony
wasn't merely self serving and of no value in assessing his actual role in
the "Final Solution." Oh yes, and he promised to point out the parts of the
Soviet report on Treblinka written in Nov of 1945 that disavows mass graves.

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[pooshoodog]

Just because a statement of fact is mentioned in the indictment, testified to by witnesses, and reiterated in the verdict you can't prove it was believed by anybody.

STUNDIE NOMINATION, PLEAZE!!

If this doesn't win, the competition is rigged.

 

[dafydd]

I can't be bothered to trawl through the thread. Does anyone know if our Hitler huggers answered my question about their opinion as to the right number of Jews that the Nazis murdered?