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Gang stalking paranoia

Well, in your posts.
You have obviously abandoned trying to convince us of the grand government conspiracy and are going for something smaller.
 
If our guy posts a clear explanation of what he claims, an example of my "abuse," or a coherent example of "gang stalking," I'll buy Mr. Toke an ice cold Akvavit. Jubilaems, even.
 
Perhaps Aarron has turned the tables on us baddies and he's now doing the harassing?
 
carlitos said:
If our guy posts a clear explanation of what he claims, an example of my "abuse," or a coherent example of "gang stalking," I'll buy Mr. Toke an ice cold Akvavit. Jubilaems, even.
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The level of coherency so far look like no free snaps for me. :(
 
I like the pacing of this discussion. It's a refreshing change from the more manic posting styles elsewhere in Conspiracy Theories. We will probably get some evidence for gang stalking in time for the Olympics in Rio.
 
Anyone who simply rules out the very idea of stalkers stalking together, any more than any other bullies or crooks cooperating, cannot betaken seriously.
 
I do not believe in the phenomenon of gang stalking, yet you could say it's happened to me. No one was getting payed though, because they all did it because of a woman. My ex.

I don't expect any of you to believe the whole matter, because if I tell you all, it sounds so very fabricated so it's ridiculous.

I've also done wrong stuff in the matter.

Let me make a list of some unbelievable things she has done...
1. She has attacked me in front of our children and when I've been holding her away from kicking and hitting me she has just thrown herself to the floor screaming so the children could see it.

2. She broke her own arm in anger. She got stuck with the hand in a door handle and ripped it off as she were rushing to attack me. She was trying to blame this on me, but the doctors could see in the x-ray it was drawn off.

3. She has accused me of rape. But I was freed in court. She did that in a matter she told the police she didn't want to press charges, so she couldn't be held responsible for false accusations, but the police she talked to had to press charges.

These things she has of course shown people who believes where it is smoke it's fire. They believe I'm guilty of the rape and think I was freed because she didn't want to press charges.

All of this happened 2006. I had by then a job I made a lot of money from, but couldn't take it any more, because it meant so much late shift etc. Some weeks I had around 100 hours working time. No joke.
The union was even on me I had to work less. We had everything, yet, she rather was out partying than beeing home with the family and when I found out she was unfaithful to me I gave her an ultimatum, but since I was so busy at work I couldn't be rational about my thoughts and was very quick beeing burned out.
She didn't want to listen to my ultimatum (which was to go to family therapy), so I dumped her, quit my job and was planning to take a couple of months to rest before I found a new job, but then the next chock hit me. She had stolen all our savings, which she used to buy an apartment which she later got evicted from.

I was in a bad shape and she refused to be with our children, then 2 and 4 years old. She threatened me and could say things that it's not that expensive to have someone killed, etc... Also, she started to hang with some bad people...

Then these things happened that I listed... Shortly after that I was beeing pulled over by the police because my rear wheel was not tightened. This was shortly after I put on the summer wheels on my car, so yes... The bolts maybe weren't tightened enough... But it was done with a machine. A week later after that incident when I came to my garage, three nuts from each wheel were on the ground.

This is not all what happened, but I then saw her wanting to kill me and I talked about this with friends who didn't believe me, in fact, some friends thought it was just my "guilty conscience" because of the alleged rape and assault. While others recommended me to see a psychiatrist, which I did when I this thoughts were to overwhelming, so basiclly I committed myself. While there, I learned my ex had tried to get me committed, without I even had talked to her. Since I didn't have proof on these things I didn't tell her anything about it etc, yet she had tried to get me committed... All I had said to her was that she HAD to be with the children and that I couldn't have them 100% because I still was burned out after my job.

But yes... I do believe in gang stalking, but it's not a very common thing, not a phenonomen, but since I then got diagnosed with a paranoid psychose, maybe people doesn't want to listen.

There happened a lot more things, but I've been just laying out facts here. Stuff I can't imagine and things that means I'm a liar if they aren't true.
 
Sounds more like a case of The Amazing Psychopathic Wife than a case of "gang stalking".

Inasmuch as its possible for insanely vindictive people to convince a couple of friends to help him/her make your life miserable, that's not really the kind of situation the term "gang stalking" was invented to describe; it's a false trail.
 
Right I understand that; but that's not what people are talking about when they say there's no such thing as "gangstalking". Of course it's not rare for people to convince others that someone they don't like is a "bad person" or whatnot.
 
CompuTerror said:
What I mean is that other people helped her and that she, with her false accusations turned people against me.
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Yes, but that's not "gang stalking" as used in this thread, and as used in general. Anyone can make an accusation of a crime against anyone else. Would you call it gang stalking just because the police followed up on such accusations? Even if the accusations are legitimate? Actual criminals could complain of being "gang stalked" by the police, but they would find little sympathy, as they're actually criminals. It's the idea that police, or other people, will go out of their way to stalk and harass otherwise innocent people that lies behind the "gang stalking" claims.

Exploiting weaknesses in the established procedures of society doesn't rise to the status of "gang stalking" as used here. It needs to go beyond that. The police must be expected to investigate any reasonable accusations of criminal activity. It's only when those investigations go beyond what is reasonable for the situation at hand that it becomes "stalking".
 
CompuTerror said:
What I mean is that other people helped her and that she, with her false accusations turned people against me.
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Gang stalking goes beyond that. To the believer, EVERY SINGLE PERSON they see is in on it.

That bum sleeping in the alley as you walk by? Deliberately placed there to stalk you.

The customers in the McDonalds across the street? Stalking you. All of them. The employees too.

It's the amazing scope combined with the fact there is no reason for it to exist outside of the psychosis of the "victim" that makes gang stalking different.
 
CompuTerror said:
Ok. Then I think I understand. Usually a clear case of what would be diagnosed with schizophrenic?
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Yeah that sums it up well. All the "tactics" the "perps" allegedly employ, that they claim they experience, directly mimic what you would expect a schizophrenic to describe of his day. The mere fact they claim what they do, thinking it sounds rational, is proof enough that they are indeed crazy.

Sad fact is these people need real professional help they aren't getting by connecting with others in internet forums. I read that recently one, a lady named Pam Amderson, blew her brains out in front of her best friend at a shooting range in San Bernadino because of the hopelessness of her situation against her "stalkers". Looking into her story it's clear she was simply bi-polar and approaching menopause. Every time she tried to leave her house and look for a job she couldn't find her keys (probably the forgetfulness of a bi-polar mind, similar to ADHD) and was told by her online friends that gang stalkers were entering her home and hiding them from her. She would then have emotional outbursts, probably from pre menopausal hormone imbalances.
Her online "support group" lead her off a cliff and she blew her brains out.

They were happy to do this to validate their own delusions, they encourage others' delusions and chase away anyone practicing critical thought as "perps" because they challenge the group belief system they all promote in the hopes they can someday tell family and friends "see, I'm not crazy, it happens to all these people so it could be happening to me too!" .

I happen to know a lot about these people because I was actually stalked by unknown people in vehicles in the traditional sense some years ago on several instances, didn't understand why, (still don't but it hasn't happened since) and went looking for answers.
Some of it appeared at first to be similar, and I thought "okay, I found it on the internet so it must be true".
Still I thought I had found people with a similar problem, but quickly realized I was surrounded by idiots and wackos. I feel a mixture of contempt and sympathy for them.
Contempt both because there are surely some government activities which step over the line, particularly after 9/11. They aren't this comical circus called Gang Stalking and what does exist can find cover by their stupid parody of them. Secondly the mentally ill are being lead away from effective treatment by fellow mentally ill who are more obsessed with the vanity of never admitting their faults.
I had no problem admitting to myself I was guilty of a bit of paranoid thinking at the time. You'll find they have extreme reactions to any suggestion of the kind. They did convince me the "program" would do things I should look for. Looking hard enough of course I found them. I was of sound mind so more reasonable explanations always won over the absurdity of thinking a dozen people in line ahead of me at the post office were put there solely to annoy me. Things like that.
Maybe the saddest thing and which proves their mental issues, is this plain fact: The solution to their problems is as easy as accepting the advice of mental health professionals, and adhering to a regimen of taking their meds- far easier than taking down a global conspiracy against them with leadership at the highest levels of government and permeating to everyone around them.
In essence, if their conspiracy theory were remotely true, there wouldn't be a damn thing they could ever hope to do about it.
 
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