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Galaxies detected beyond the limits of Hubble

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Here is a a question from someone that knows nothing about physics. Can you figure out where the center of the galaxy is and see the Big Bang with this thing?
 
Here is a a question from someone that knows nothing about physics. Can you figure out where the center of the galaxy is and see the Big Bang with this thing?

The center is wherever the observer is.

And we've been able to see and measure the background microwave radiation from the big bang for over 40 years. This radiation has been finely measured & found to be constant to a high degree of uniformity no matter where one looks into the sky.
 
Here is a a question from someone that knows nothing about physics. Can you figure out where the center of the galaxy is and see the Big Bang with this thing?
We can see the center of the galaxy in any telescope (Hubble) or even with the naked eye. However to image stars in the center of the galaxy we need look though the dust and gas between us and the center. That requires techniques such as Very Long Baseline interferometry (VLBI) for the stars that orbit Sagittarius A*.

We cannot see the actual Big Bang with Hubble or James Webb or any other instrument that we could build. We can get close with the cosmic microwave background (~380,000 years afterward). The big news though is the recent detection of the cosmic neutrino background which takes us to observing ~1 second after the Big Bang. CONFIRMED: The Last Great Prediction Of The Big Bang!
 
Stunningly incredible and beautiful.

There are no words to describe this!
 
Oh my we are small. I would have to bet there is just so much intelligent life out there. Sooo much.
 
The centre of the universe is here. Right here. Also over there. Also on the other side of the galaxy. Also in other galaxies. The so-called "Big Bang" happened in all of those places. That's the point.
 
The centre of the universe is here. Right here. Also over there. Also on the other side of the galaxy. Also in other galaxies. The so-called "Big Bang" happened in all of those places. That's the point.

That's just crazy talk.
 
Oh my we are small. I would have to bet there is just so much intelligent life out there. Sooo much.
Nonsense, unfortunately. There is no chance of life elsewhere. The one common ancestor here, with the four identical amino acids show this in starkly simple statistical terms.
 
Nonsense, unfortunately. There is no chance of life elsewhere. The one common ancestor here, with the four identical amino acids show this in starkly simple statistical terms.

I think you're a bit confused, here. The amino acids we use are but one of a very large number of possible combinations. You're mistakingly interpreting our own life as the only possible chemical composition, but it is not. In fact, there is a very good chance that life arose in several places independantly on Earth, but that only one lineage survived, either because of catastrophes, competition, or both. In addition to that, different compounds could theoretically be used to form life. There are actually very good odds that life exists elsewhere in this very, VERY big universe with its trillions of stars and planets. Civilisation, however, might be a long shot.
 
.... in this very, VERY big universe with its trillions of stars and planets.

It's way beyond trillions. With about 200 billion stars in our own galaxy and at least 100 billion galaxies out there, the number of stars is in the sextillions.

Steve S
 
Nonsense, unfortunately. There is no chance of life elsewhere. The one common ancestor here, with the four identical amino acids show this in starkly simple statistical terms.

Yeah...no. Just...no.

See "Life Everywhere" and "Rare Earth", two books taking opposed views on the subject. They both prove you wrong.

It's not that all modern life doesn't share a common ancestor. The issue is that that common ancestor isn't necessarily the first organism, and almost certainly isn't. It's like Mitochondrial Eve--at the time when LUCA was running around it was probably just another bacteria, indistinguishable from all the billions of others around it. LUCA tells us very, very little about what came before. It is not impossible--I would say it's likely--that life arose a few times on Earth, with various styles of life competing with one another in various ways (evolution in the modern sense didn't start until a bit later, as inter-taxa gene flow would have potentially been far more common back then).

A lot of how life is made today is what Gould called contingency--we use four codons (actually 6, but who's counting?) because that's what our ancestors used. It didn't need to be that way--labs have created alternative DNA systems, including adding more strands and using different codons--but that's what happened to survive. As for amino acids (a very different thing), certain types of polarized light preferentially zap left-handed amino acids, allowing right-handed ones to survive better in space. I accept a weak panspermia argument--I think there's ample evidence supporting the idea that many organic molecules originated in space, and came to Earth on meteors and comets and whatnot--and this is one of hte lines of evidence supporting it.

On topic, I can't wait for this scope to be online. I'm not very knowledgeable about this topic, though; wouldn't they be finding proto-galaxies that far out? I mean, the further you go the further into the past you're looking; does the term "galaxy" actually apply here?
 
Well then, this is a happy turn of events ...

It turns out that the maximum range of the Hubble was underestimated and that now it can be used in ways that were quite unexpected when it is orignally deployed.

Yea science!

:)
 
That is an amazingly diverse author list. 12 people, 9 different institutions. The story of how that paper got written is probably interesting all on its own.
 

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