I often see new people arrive on this forum burning with zeal, often pretending to be people they aren't, on a mission to correct wrong thinkers. They post in one thread only and disappear, smugly thinking they have proven their point. They are fanboys.
Likewise I see fangirls in various forums, who seem to be the shrillest shrews, screaming defiantly that Tostee will be going to jail. When they are proved wrong, they nevertheless continue to push their agenda of vilification, by pushing a narrative that someone who was exonerated by a court, is somehow a killer.
You're making a much better case than anyone so far, and I agree Eric Thomas did not kill anyone.However, you are glossing over the fact that Eric Thomas, aka Gable Tostee, knowingly locked a drunk and incapable or barely-capable woman in an extremely unsafe place on property that he was in sole command of.Claiming the balcony is not part of his property is both absurd and a legal nonsense. The balcony - aside from the fact that it's only accessible from inside, is not a chattel, and is therefore legally part of the building.
But hey, the judge ruled otherwise and the result is history, and I'm fine with that.
It has all been explained in the last few pages bur for some reason you continue to ignore it, so I cant help you any further. In Qld if you commit an offence, you are liable to be restrained. Everyone has a common law right to perform a citizens arrest, and that can take many forms. To my knowledge No one has ever been prosecuted in Australia for detaining offenders until Police arrive. If you ever understand this concept, then perhaps you will move forward on this point.
As for her being barely capable, you seem to be unaware of some of the facts of this case. She was capable enough to fight, and climb over a balcony within 12 secs flat. Also a old woman who is a senor public servant in Qld was recently charged with DUI whilst the EXACT same BAC as Tagpuno. (Google "corporate and executive services Kathy Dunning was charged"). So lets stop with the fakery that she was a stumbling drunk - she was indeed physically capable enough, screaming and fighting.
Eloquent as your post is, you are not going to get away with painting Eric Thomas, under his former guise of Gable Tostee, as an innocent bystander.
That is your right of course to think he is guilty of "something" if you refuse to accept Tagpuno is solely responsible for her own death, but many of us do not share your view, and that includes the jury of 6 men and 6 women who ruled that he is innocent. If it was deemed he was criminally culpable in any way, Police would have jumped at it, as they were desperate to hang him with something. But their desperate attempts amounted to nothing. I was in a slightly similar situation to Tostee when I was in my 20s. People can be crazy and unpredictable if they are on drugs and psychologically unbalanced,a nd at that age you don't necessarily have the life experience to recognise it or deal with it .
Like these?
And of course you have evidence to support these falsehoods and concocted fantasies, right?
yes, its called the recording, it was the sole piece of evidence in the trial.
You would have no trouble at all. They tend to be brief as befits finality. Jotted quickly after a night boozing at the private club. We have a serial offender in Andrew Tipping j who was promoted to the supreme court for his fiction writing prowess where he could do the greatest damage and no doubt has.He denied appeals by David Bain and Mark Lundy with egregious lies in quick succession.
The Australian system should be the same, had Tostee been convicted it would be confirmed by a few breezy one liners about the jury being entitled to believe the moon is made of green cheese, if Tipping is the model.
If they are brief as you say, select one for me to read, and provide links, and I will give you an unqualified TransTasman view, if it is worthwhile to you.
No.Had he thrown her out the front door and she'd fallen down and died after that, yes.
She was locked on a balcony that was solely accessible through his apartment, so while the legal position says it wasn't his responsibility, that is just a problem with QLD law. As I said, there is no question he would have been convicted of at least depriving her of her freedom under NZ law.
Wrong. You still arent looking at it correctly as I explained above. Deprivation of liberty isn't what you think it is either, not in Qld anyway.
There is no minimum time period.I know.Your cue should have been where I said "Had it happened in NZ..."
It wouldn't come anywhere near the bar for HD - it's considered quite a serious crime.
Its is never subject to a time period. you cant legislate that, it goes entirely on what the context is. If someone kidnaps you and locks you in a boot for 20 seconds for a joke, that is not kidnap or deprivation of liberty. There has to be a serious intent to deprive you of your freedom for a protracted time in a restricted sense. Walking around on a spacious balcony for less than a minute does not fit with that.
Oh boo *********** hoo. You have found in this thread that Tostee wasn't really a body builder, he just wanted to "tone" his arms. Hilarious.
Even the B/builders on the BBF scoffed at the idea. Provide evidence that he was a bodybuilder? You cant.
Despite the words of the fake QC here, there will be a coroners enquire. The coroner will not rubberstamp this disgraceful decision. There's still a way to go.
Lol just continually denying the truth will not make it happen. All the facts of the death are known, that is the bottom line. There is sufficient knowledge of why Tagpuno died. She climbed over and fell. Game over. Now that the verdict is in, and trial complete, it is a rubberstamping formality to classify it as "death by accident".
If anyone thinks there is now an obligation on the coroner to somehow determine what was going on in Tagpuno's mind to postulate a theory as to why she went over, and that it needs to be recorded on the death certificate as well, umm....that is going to lead to another emotional Websooks-style meltdown when events unfold contrary to some personal wishful thinking, and I'd hate to see more sobbing because of that.
I'll be thinking of you forum members as we are all glued to 60 Mins tonight to view the man himself.
